DELTA 1010 OR LAYLA 24 ???

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Hi everyone,
I'm getting ready to buy an audio card and i'm doing my research rightnow and this is what i've heard so far.
For the price range that i can afford,i've been told about a couple of card and these are the ones that i'm leaning toward.
1- DELTA 1010
2- LAYLA 24
3- RME HAMMERFALL 9652(IF THIS IS YOUR TOP ADVICE FOR ME,PLEASE TELL ME HOW DO I HOOK MY ANALOG MIXER TO IT AND HOW GOOD IS THE PERFORMANCE ?)

PLEASE TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE CARDS.
REGARDING LATENCY PERFORMANCE,SOUND QUALITY EXCT...
MY SYSTEM:
P-III,450,320MB
VST 24 3.7R2,MACKIE 1604VLZ PRO.
THANX TO ALL.
 
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hi guhnlenn,

please can you refer me to the exact location of that conclusion? Rhymes.

I checked on the link, and I have read it before, but even the $300 midiman flying cow, has better results than the layla24.

Now I would not even compare the flying cow to the delta1010.

I am not saying that the layla is bad. Even the old 20 bit layla was nice

peace.
 
I haven't used any of the cards listed, but I have heard recordings made with both the Delta and the Layla cards. They can both produce good results.
 
Hey guys thanx alot,
But now do you have any freind that know these cards and what do people think about them ?
Lowest latency,best sound quality,have they been tested with cubase VST ?
 
I've got a Layla20....and have no desire to get the 24 because I would lose two extra ouptuts and I don't need the headphone volume control on the front. ...Plus...it keeps my feet warm in the winter!... Actually, if you can't get a good sound out of an Echo product, or the 1010, or whatever, it aint the card... first clue:________

2nd clue________________
3rd clue________________......but last of all, just play some kick a$$ music that will melt your listeners to wanna hear it again.

Oh yeah...forget those Mackie VLZ preamps too!! :-) (I couldn't resist!)

another point, there is no latency when monitoring with these cards if you are set up *correct* and if 10ms of time throws your *groove* off, then you don't need semi pro gear. Go rent some time at Oceanway or an equivalent.
 
Hey man thanx,
i think i'm gonna get the one that cost less $$$$$
From what i understand they're alright few pops and cracks or ,latency problem.Trust me i take my time to get my sh***t set-up so i can move on doing my phat beat just like you said.But core2 wasn't freindly at all the latency on that card been killing me 43ms man.
Hey by the way what ms of latency is where you can start heir the delay ?
 
I'm going to GUESS...like say 30 ms+ will start sounding like distinct attacks and create problems.
 
Thanx Mixmkr,
I think you're right on that too,because the lowest i get with my core 2 is abou 43ms and that's a litlebit off tempo
so i don't think that anything freom 1.5 to 12ms would stop me from working.
You guys are more helpful than cabase.net people for real appreciated.
Is it the number that shows in the system cotrol panel the realtime latency number in cubase?? Because that's the number i'm reffering to.

Thanx.Pouvoir
 
mixmkr is exactly right. If you can't get good sound out of a layla or 1010, then its not the card.

A perfect example is "addiction" by Kabudokan. An off the hook song done on a soundblaster live card.
http://www.mp3.com/theshadyneighbor

also, I don't get any latency at all out of the delta 1010.

Are you already using cubase, or do you plan to purchase it?
If you are planning to purchase it, please forget it.

In every discussion on the web concerning how software treats the sound you input through your sound card, cubase has always come up as the worst sounding of the pro bunch.
i.e Digital Performer, Logic audio platinum, and pro tools. Even audio desk sounds better than cubase.

It all has to do with the software algorythms. For example, Logic is know for a nice, robust low end, while pro-tools is known for adding some mids.


peace.
 
Thanx guys i guess i'm almost ready to get one of these cards,maybe the delta 1010 for the good deal they have rightnow.
Hey CianJ.i heard you man,but unfortunetly i already got cubase man Thhanx for the help.
Also MIXMKR big-up to you man , apreciated

If anyone just jump in here,read my first post ontop
and all the help syill welcome,hala and i'll be checkin'in again tonight or tommorow
Peace.....
 
If anyone just jump in here,read my first post ontop
and all the help syill welcome,hala and i'll be checkin'in again tonight or tommorow
Peace
 
If anyone just jump in here,read my first post ontop
and all the help syill welcome,hala and i'll be checkin'in again tonight or tommorow
Peace
 
The quality of various software multitrackers:

We had a similiar thread awhile ago.

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=19871

I really don't believe there is a difference between Cubase, Logic, Vegas, Nuendo etc. in the sound 'quality' of the wav file. The built in effect's may be better in some of these programs than others, but in raw, uneffected wav form they should be identical.

"For example, Logic is know for a nice, robust low end"

That's scary, if it's that noticable between Cubase and Logic in an A/B test, than one of them is truly mucked, but which one? The volume changing, dithiring aspects could certainly be the make or break difference between programs but his would take a lot of testing to come to a conclusive answer. Where is this data? I sure ain't seen it.

Features are what seperate these programs. Automation, MIDI implementation, bus setup, editing features, efficiency etc. IMO.
 
Hi Emeric,
I don't thing you digg me dough,because i'm talking about audio card choice here not anyother software i alredy have CUBASE VST and i like it.
Look at the posts from this guy name MIXMAKR .
That's what we talkin'about ,he helps me a-lot
Thanx to you too anyway.
 
Well you did ask:

"PLEASE TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE CARDS.
REGARDING LATENCY PERFORMANCE,SOUND QUALITY EXCT...
MY SYSTEM:
P-III,450,320MB
VST 24 3.7R2,MACKIE 1604VLZ PRO.
THANX TO ALL."


Hardware in relation to software is in there somewhere... :) But yeah your right, I sidetracked.
 
Thank you verymuch Emeric
I'm loving this forum ,because you guys always reply
and help people
Appreciated.
 
Emeric....

Look for the GREEN BOTTLED BEER ! I hear it makes the best sounding - soundcards / software...;)

DoH! Sorry...wrong thread....

zip >>

ps...I wish I had a Delta OR a Layla....
 
Have you thought about the DSP Factory

Hi Monsieur,

I have been reading this forum and I didn't hear anyone talking about the DSP Factory from Yamaha. Since you have the budget to buy the Layla, why don't you have a look at the DSP Factory?

I use it in combination with VST and it works very nice. Especially since you have a P-III 450, it is wise to get a card which does not use up processing power. The DSP has 5 processors which do not take any of the processing power. I don't know if this is the same with the Delta or Layla, but I find it very safe that when i'm recording my system doesn't get any hick-ups.

You also should check out the Siena from Sek'D. I've heard a lot of good things about this card too.

I hope that this does not confuse you to much, but since you are serious on hard disk recording it is wise to look at all alternatives...

Good luck on your decision!

Ryan
 
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