dang, that sucks

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well, i need to vent, so here goes:

4 months ago i walked into my local music store with a really. big. smile. i picked out the finish, and style of guitar i wanted, i picked out the bridge... and was told it would be about 4 months until i had my new axe in my hands. a brand new PRS singlecut with black cherry finish and prs wraparound stoptail (not the fully adjustable one). all beefy and shiny and new...

well, with about 1/2 month to go before the expected time of delivery, i was surfing the prs site and noticed the sign saying 'important info on singlecut guitars'....

my heart sank, i had heard all about the gibson vs prs case and was pretty confident that i'd have mine built before a court order could ever be placed... well, i was wrong.

dang, that sucks.

on my lunch today i'll be heading over to the same shop to read the email PRS sent them regarding this issue, and why i won't be able to receive my new guitar... which is probably sitting in the factory, 75% finished. da-ang. if i find out anything interesting from this email then i'll post it, but right about now, the only thing that is keepin me believing that i will have this particular guitar is my faith in God for wanting me to use it for His glory.

for the mean time however, all i can do is pray, and praise Him through my time of trouble.

-dan
 
really? a court order??... i havn't heard of that before...

so let me guess, Gibson sued PRS because their single cut gutiars looked too much like Gibson Les Pauls? Well i have seen a ton of knock off fenders and nobody is complaining. That really sucks man. I gotta be honest though, i'm a Gibson / Fender man. My first guitar was a Gbison LP ( i still own it) and it is awsome. It is true that PRS's have their own feel and sound though. So what style of guitars will they primarily be selling? I like their bouble cut guitars, i thik they play and sound awsome. well let us know what you decide to do. good luck
 
Yes Gibson sued PRS and for the single cut away design and won. I was totally surprised with the result!!!!! To me the single cut away hardley looks like a Les Paul. What about a Hondo knock off? I am actually a big fan of intelectual property protection, but I was surprised by the verdict given the fact that exaxt les paul clones were being made by lots of other companies for 20 years or more.

I always figured that Gibson would love PRS. Some of us old timers might remember that when the PRS guitars came out at $1400 people flipped like it was the most insane price for a guitar, but then people go used to it. All of a sudden a les paul that used to sell for $800 then started going for $1300.
 
danobi said:
...which is probably sitting in the factory, 75% finished.
-dan
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Contact the factory - if it was in the process of being built, maybe they can take a jigsaw and make it into a double cutaway. :rolleyes: :) :eek:

Sorry, as a PRS owner, that's just sick humor.

Good luck.
 
lmao, ya rite... that would be massacre.
but yeah, i just found out that even if it was ready to go out the door they still couldn't legally send it to me, and have probably already destroyed it...

maaan.
so, now i'm searching the web for a dealer who has one in stock
 
obviously this isn't the way it is, but i think that the ones on order and in the process of being built should have been kind of part of a grandfather clause.
 
donkeystyle said:
obviously this isn't the way it is, but i think that the ones on order and in the process of being built should have been kind of part of a grandfather clause.
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If they in fact broke the law by copying the LP design (I don't think they look close enough) then there would be no grandfather clause.

BTW, Donkeystyle, isn't there some huge guitar store up there in Kennewick or somewhere in the tri-cities? If I remember correctly, my buddy was telling about one up there.
 
music machine. not big. but it's a big gibson dealer. i think maybe the biggest numbers wise.

i didn't really mean a real grandfather clause.......i didn't know how to put it.....i just think that they should at the very least be allowed to finish the ones they have already been contracted to build and not be able to accept any more orders.

i'm not a prs fan, at least looks wise i'm not.........i dunno about sound or feel.......but i think they should be allowed to continue the single cut. it bares a certain resemblance to the les paul, but not enough so to confuse anyone but beginners.........and the thing is, both of those guitars cost way too much for a beginner to buy them.

where are you from jfrog?
 
Anybody know if this lawsuit effects the Korean made SE's as well, or just the USA mad guitars? Those SE's are one of the best deals going I think. I'd hate to see them go bye-bye...

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That's so freaking lame. Everybody knows that guitar makers borrow eachothers designs, but that doesn't mean the guitars are even close to eachother. I mean, sure, the body's may *look* close (though I definately think the PRS body style greatly differs from Gibson's), but everybody who knows anything about guitar knows there is a lot more to guitars than their body shape. Woods, electronics, hardware, construction methods, and all the fine details of body's and finishes are radically different from guitar to guitar, everybody knows that. My guess is the judge was definately NOT a guitar player. I hope this gets appealed and overruled.

But then again, I'm sure Epiphone invented this guitar style, right?

Just one more reason for me to hate Gibson...
 
that's disgusting.

I personally hate Gibson (not so much the guitars), and this doesn't make it any better.
 
Imaduck said:
But then again, I'm sure Epiphone invented this guitar style, right?

that is unbelievable. does fender know about this?

anyways, i found a dealer MATT's MUSIC (listed on prs site). they're in london ontarion, canada, and they had the singlecut, same style bridge/pickups/everything. they only difference is the finish. the one they have is just gloss black. now, i really don't even care what the finish is, although i did like black cherry, i just want the guitar now. cosmetics are out the window. so i'm saving $500, and it's being delivered to my front door in 3 days or so. brand new, only played by two guys in the store. all for $3500 (canadian). tax incl.
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ri-freakin-diculous

Reading this just angers the hell out of me, because if the prs singlecut looks too much like a les paul then they're basically saying every singlecut guitar looks too much like a les paul. Take a look around, I'd be willing to bet good money that there aren't many singlecuts (with exception to the ugly ones, or the ravelle) that look much less similar to les pauls than the prs singlecuts. Sure they all look very similar, but they're all just the basic shape of most acoustics (with a smaller body) with one cutout. It's a shape that was used for centuries, and even though it sounds corny, it belongs to us all...
 
The Gibson vs. PRS case was not an issue of copyright or patent. It was a trademark case. Gibson, in the last few years, registered the LP as a trademark, and the PRS case is a test case on their part. I am not sure if this is a decision which will stand, if PRS chooses to go after the appeal. It certainly, in my expert opinion, is a case without merit. Unfortunately, the plaintiff in civil cases like this get to choose the venue for the suit, and Gibson choose their home town, Nashville. The judge, a Nashville native, handed down a decision in Gibson's favor. Fender has never taken out a copyright for the Strat, which is why they are not going to be suing Gibson over that Epiphone copy.


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yeah, people have been saying that Fender only copyrighted their headstocks, not body shapes... so they have no ground.

in lighter news (no pun intended... oh, well, ya there definately was...) i just got my guitar yesterday (prs singlecut, black, stop tailpiece) i would've paid a million bucks for this guitar, it is soo good. immaculate from one end to the other. i've never personally played on a better guitar. it was born on May 13, 2003, and i think i will be celebrating it's birthday! haha, but seriously, it's awesome.
threw on some strap locks (schaller) and i'll be picking up a black strap today... funny bout that... i had a black strap on my old axe and i was just going to take that one off and put it on the PRS, but it's not long enough for my comfort. so now i'm using a camo strap (looks hilarious on a $3500 guitar), until i get my new one.. i'm just gunna throw the camo one on my old beeter, as it cheapens the heck out of the PRS's look.

haha, when i picked up the guitar, my wife was so excited for me that she cried! it was awesome. ya, she's a keeper. (my wife, i mean)
 
oh yeah, i kinda forgot to mention the most important part... it sounds soo good. i haven't gotten to evaluate it in full yet but it's punchy and beefy and everything i asked for. sounds great through my Marshall AVT150h amp. that was the bridge pickup. switching to the neck pickup is creamy with a beautiful tone.

again, i was only able to play on it for a collective 2hrs so far, so a sonic evaluation i do not have. but i'm 100% satisfied thus far.
 
Congats, danobi! Glad you didn't have to settle for something else.
 
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