Cubase SE - Is it worth it?

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hueseph said:
You can't justify your wrongdoing by what other people do wrong. That's idiotic. You're just making excuses. I don't like what people do in the world either but adding to that doesn't help anything.

true, I should have specified earlier on the reason why im not much worried about piracy, and that there are bigger more important things. Our economy is going down right now whether we can stop it or not, and a few less piraters in the world wont make much a difference. Then again, fuck all that, because justice is fuckin sick, and I dont see how I even could justify my wrongdoing, by what others do, thats just delusional on both sides.
 
exojjl said:
true, I should have specified earlier on the reason why im not much worried about piracy, and that there are bigger more important things. Our economy is going down right now whether we can stop it or not, and a few less piraters in the world wont make much a difference. Then again, fuck all that, because justice is fuckin sick, and I dont see how I even could justify my wrongdoing, by what others do, thats just delusional on both sides.

You are so blind to reality. How do you think our economy would look if EVERY piece of cracked software, EVERY illegally downloaded song, and EVERY pirated movie, and EVERY pirated video game being watched, listened to and used was PAID for? A better economy or a worse one? LMAO...you're one of the causes of your biggest concern and you can't even see it. Don't feel bad...most hypocrites lash out at everyone else because they don't want to look inwards.

Additionally, I would hope that, God forbid, you or your family comes into a great tragedy at the hands of a liar, cheater, thief, drunk driver, murderer, ect... that you would respectfully approach the judge in charge of the case and ask for the defendant to be released because "justice is fuckin sick". I really hope you use those exact words. Actually it would be even cooler if you could wheel in a dry erase board and write it out for him just like that, same spelling and everything. That would be the best.

I can't even start on your other post, the rediculousness of it speaks for itself and for you. Since you gave us permission at the end of it, let me be the first to take you up on it: You're crazy.

Now please join Mista and go to Norway.
 
then again, i also didnt mention that I dont know much on the relation between piracy and the economy, and how much it does affect it, and I also never said that I think everyone should pirate software. But mostly, as I first meant to only state was that piracy is on thinking of it only on one side, is that its nature of severity is not as severe as most other crimes in relation to its genre or kind of crime. What i mean is that I dont think its nowhere near as bad as the fact that most corporations out there break several laws to make more and more money. When it comes to software manufacture, i am not sure as to the degree of corporate crimes commited in its business, but wal-mart sells software (they dont make it of course, so this is a little different, but they make alot of their products they sell) and they have broken every single law in the business world several times over, it wouldnt hurt them to steal a $5 shirt, because of several reasons i could go over if you want a post that would consume 5 or more pages. Although one is that they have a total income of aprox $250 billion a year, being more than any business in the world!! And the way they treat the some 1 million recirculating employees, its absolutely horrible, but then again, they arnt a small company as these software manufacturersm or not as small. So yeah, in that sense, i really do not support piracy to be completly honest with you. I would rather steal a $5 t-shirt from wal-mart than I would a $299 piece of software, and it really has nothing to do with prices really (like stated). I hope you can finnally "grasp" what im trying to say, and that yes, I admit i poorly presented it in the first place.
 
Bass Master "K" said:
You are so blind to reality. How do you think our economy would look if EVERY piece of cracked software, EVERY illegally downloaded song, and EVERY pirated movie, and EVERY pirated video game being watched, listened to and used was PAID for? A better economy or a worse one? LMAO...you're one of the causes of your biggest concern and you can't even see it. Don't feel bad...most hypocrites lash out at everyone else because they don't want to look inwards.

Additionally, I would hope that, God forbid, you or your family comes into a great tragedy at the hands of a liar, cheater, thief, drunk driver, murderer, ect... that you would respectfully approach the judge in charge of the case and ask for the defendant to be released because "justice is fuckin sick". I really hope you use those exact words. Actually it would be even cooler if you could wheel in a dry erase board and write it out for him just like that, same spelling and everything. That would be the best.

I can't even start on your other post, the rediculousness of it speaks for itself and for you. Since you gave us permission at the end of it, let me be the first to take you up on it: You're crazy.

Now please join Mista and go to Norway.
you also dont realize anythinga bout what justice is really about. They stop crime by using crime, etc. Its fucking sick, you murder someone, then they get high on killing you in the gas chamber. And then the family of victims are like "I hope this motherfucker rots in hell, and sits there for twenty or more minutes, sending shock after shock into the asshole because someone set it up wrongly like always, and all the while the electric chair exocution gets botched like it always does!!!"no cruel and unusual punishment shall be imposed?!?! hahaha!! yeah fucking right!!! cruel, yes, unusual, no!! Saying that its unusual is kind of a bad thing....

And let me ask, you say that one post about the conspiracy is rediculous? is that because there is actual fact about it, i never said its true, I said that there is fact supporting that it may be true, and on a side note, someone does know its true. That is why the word "conspiracy" was created, because, um, there sort of are conspiracys in this world, believe it or not, and that to be a conspiracy (i think anyways) there has to be actual fact saying its possible.

also, what do you think would do the world better? me pirating software that I cant afford, or you wishing death upon my family because you are a sick motherfucker with no peace in your heart?
I fucking hate your fucking attitude for wishing death upon my family, moreover I could have thoughts of hating you, but no I must think more peace than that and rise above your level of misguided confusion when you can be more divine yourself if only you looked within, and not on the exterior of wish upon someones physical self was no longer living.
 
Additionally, I would hope that, God forbid your narrowmind. Peace my friend, and I hope you can find it.
 
exojjl said:
you also dont realize anythinga bout what justice is really about. They stop crime by using crime, etc. Its fucking sick, you murder someone, then they get high on killing you in the gas chamber. And then the family of victims are like "I hope this motherfucker rots in hell, and sits there for twenty or more minutes, sending shock after shock into the asshole because someone set it up wrongly like always, and all the while the electric chair exocution gets botched like it always does!!!"no cruel and unusual punishment shall be imposed?!?! hahaha!! yeah fucking right!!! cruel, yes, unusual, no!! Saying that its unusual is kind of a bad thing....

And let me ask, you say that one post about the conspiracy is rediculous? is that because there is actual fact about it, i never said its true, I said that there is fact supporting that it may be true, and on a side note, someone does know its true. That is why the word "conspiracy" was created, because, um, there sort of are conspiracys in this world, believe it or not, and that to be a conspiracy (i think anyways) there has to be actual fact saying its possible.

also, what do you think would do the world better? me pirating software that I cant afford, or you wishing death upon my family because you are a sick motherfucker with no peace in your heart?
I fucking hate your fucking attitude for wishing death upon my family, moreover I could have thoughts of hating you, but no I must think more peace than that and rise above your level of misguided confusion when you can be more divine yourself if only you looked within, and not on the exterior of wish upon someones physical self was no longer living.

Well now you've finally gone completely batty. I NEVER wished anything bad onto you, nor your family. You obviously have a tough time with interpreting the english language. If you looked at the context, you would actually see that I was saying I hope nothing ever does happen to family, but if it did that you would be consistant and not want 'any fuckin justice'. It really was written, and meant, in a sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek manner which I think was clear to everyone who read it. Oh, everyone but you. You have some real problems understanding things and I am sorry about that. You obviously have many issues, and I hope that with time you are able to sort stuff out and see the world for what it is, not what you think it MIGHT....POSSIBLY....COULD.....MAYBE be.

Please sleep well at night with the firm knowledge that I hope no ill will comes to you, nor your family.

Now please join Mista and go to Norway.
 
corban said:
ACTUALLY, thats where you are wrong. I have not an ounce of racism. In fact I really dont even know what racism is. I was born in a family without racism, with friends who are not racist, and I myself have african/portugeese/german/irish/spanish/dutch and a bunch more of blood in me. The reason why I know nothing about racism is in fact because I am human, and that anyone human certainly cant be racist against another human without being racist toward them self (i know that is kind of twisting the term "race" around) but I mean how can you hate another human for having different skin color or something when in fact, you are exactly the same, in what makes you human. Racism is just sick, and people who label others as racist arnt helping the problem of racism. Get off your lazy fucking asses and do something about it if you dont like it. Fucking assholes, your all lazy sheep.

peace all,
 
Bass Master "K" said:
Well now you've finally gone completely batty. I NEVER wished anything bad onto you, nor your family. You obviously have a tough time with interpreting the english language. If you looked at the context, you would actually see that I was saying I hope nothing ever does happen to family, but if it did that you would be consistant and not want 'any fuckin justice'. It really was written, and meant, in a sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek manner which I think was clear to everyone who read it. Oh, everyone but you. You have some real problems understanding things and I am sorry about that. You obviously have many issues, and I hope that with time you are able to sort stuff out and see the world for what it is, not what you think it MIGHT....POSSIBLY....COULD.....MAYBE be.

Please sleep well at night with the firm knowledge that I hope no ill will comes to you, nor your family.

Now please join Mista and go to Norway.
excuse me sir, you are a fucking liar, and i will not forgive you.

"Additionally, I would hope that, God forbid, you or your family comes into a great tragedy at the hands of a liar, cheater, thief, drunk driver, murderer, ect... "

Could you stop being a piece of shit, and stop trying to fuck with me?
 
exojjl said:
excuse me sir, you are a fucking liar, and i will not forgive you.

"Additionally, I would hope that, God forbid, you or your family comes into a great tragedy at the hands of a liar, cheater, thief, drunk driver, murderer, ect... "

Could you stop being a piece of shit, and stop trying to fuck with me?

See, in the term "God forbid", that means it would be a tragedy if it happened and a misfortune. My comments were on your misguided concept that justice is 'fuckin' sick'. The "That would be the best" comment was in relation to you standing in front a justice system that is here to serve you and then spelling out your comment in the way you spelled it here. I'm sorry you don't understand english well, and I'm sorry you don't understand the word sarcasm. Now I feel bad, like someone who makes a joke at someone else, only to find out the person is retarded and can't understand. I'm just plain sorry you don't understand me. Don't worry about me messing with you. Since you don't understand what I am saying there really is no point to communicate with you.

Good luck in the future. May you and your family be well. I hope you come around to realize the errors of your thinking.
 
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Bass Master "K" said:
See, in the term "God forbid", that means it would be a tragedy if it happened and a misfortune. My comments were on your misguided concept that justice is 'fuckin' sick'. The "That would be the best" comment was in relation to you standing in front a justice system that is here to serve you and then spelling out your comment in the way you spelled it here. I'm sorry you don't understand english well, and I'm sorry you don't understand the word sarcasm. Now I feel bad, like someone who makes a joke at someone else, only to find out the person is retarded and can't understand. I'm just plain sorry you don't understand me. Don't worry about me messing with you. Since you don't understand what I am saying there really is no point to communicate with you.

Good luck in the future. May you and your family be well. I hope you come around to realize the errors of your thinking.
umm, english is actually one of the most fucked up languages in the world. And also, since this is the internet, I cant hear the sarcasm in your voice, and this being true, you need to specify it with a (sarcasm) at the beginning of your sarcastic sentence. Also god has nothing to do with this, and your going to bring something that doesnt even exist into the conversation??? And yes, I find what your trying to say rather hard. Its just basicly attack after attack with no relation into trying to even help me or help yourself. I even showed this to some friends (about a dozen, one of which is majoring in to be a english teacher) and none of them could figure out why your trying to play this game with me. See, I understand what you say, but I dont understand why you make relations to a false reality you dreamed. Really, if im so retared or stupid, then why dont you stop being a lazy asshole and do something? your way to fucking lazy though. You can start with using the word "retard" correctly (http://www.dictionary.com/retard).
one additional thing. to sum all of this up. You should not tell me i need to come around to realize the errors of my thinking because as you dont realize, we are both human, and that being actually true, and humans being imperfect, you also make errors to. So until you are absolutely perfect in every way of thinking, what gives you the right to tell others they are making erroneous(sp? thats a word right?) mistakes. You didnt say it, but by telling others they think with errors is essentially saying you dont, or at least in this situation it is.
I mean seriously, its kind of hyprocritical saying im making thinking errors without first admitting you do so, and that you could have at least previously made thinking errors as well. :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came here voicing my opinion on piracy, not supporting it, because if i was supporting it I would be telling everyone its alright and that they should do it!! Like I said, all I did was come in here stating my opinion about it. Then I started getting attacked for this as if it was alright for me to speak. That is your thinking error. If yo dont tolerate piracy, then why dont you fucking do something about it?! Or would that be to hard to track down pirates and "seek" the "fuckin sick justice" that you made a "sarcastic, yet stupid" joke about? Odviously you dont care that much huh?!
 
exojjl said:
umm, english is actually one of the most fucked up languages in the world. And also, since this is the internet, I cant hear the sarcasm in your voice, and this being true, you need to specify it with a (sarcasm) at the beginning of your sarcastic sentence. Also god has nothing to do with this, and your going to bring something that doesnt even exist into the conversation??? And yes, I find what your trying to say rather hard. Its just basicly attack after attack with no relation into trying to even help me or help yourself. I even showed this to some friends (about a dozen, one of which is majoring in to be a english teacher) and none of them could figure out why your trying to play this game with me. See, I understand what you say, but I dont understand why you make relations to a false reality you dreamed. Really, if im so retared or stupid, then why dont you stop being a lazy asshole and do something? your way to fucking lazy though. You can start with using the word "retard" correctly (http://www.dictionary.com/retard).
one additional thing. to sum all of this up. You should not tell me i need to come around to realize the errors of my thinking because as you dont realize, we are both human, and that being actually true, and humans being imperfect, you also make errors to. So until you are absolutely perfect in every way of thinking, what gives you the right to tell others they are making erroneous(sp? thats a word right?) mistakes. You didnt say it, but by telling others they think with errors is essentially saying you dont, or at least in this situation it is.
I mean seriously, its kind of hyprocritical saying im making thinking errors without first admitting you do so, and that you could have at least previously made thinking errors as well. :eek: :eek: :eek:
I came here voicing my opinion on piracy, not supporting it, because if i was supporting it I would be telling everyone its alright and that they should do it!! Like I said, all I did was come in here stating my opinion about it. Then I started getting attacked for this as if it was alright for me to speak. That is your thinking error. If yo dont tolerate piracy, then why dont you fucking do something about it?! Or would that be to hard to track down pirates and "seek" the "fuckin sick justice" that you made a "sarcastic, yet stupid" joke about? Odviously you dont care that much huh?!

Well, I know I said I was done, but seeing as how the tone has changed, let me say this.

I DID use the word retard correctly.

I DIDN'T know you had such a hard time with english. I'm sorry you had to show my post to a dozen friends to translate it.

I DO try to do something about piracy. Look at the Dongle crack thread, the big one. It takes a lot of time to try to reason with people and make them realize that stealing is wrong. What do you want me to do, break into peoples homes and catch them in the act? I can't. I have the same conversations with my friends as I post up here. That is the extent of what I can do...reason with people. And when thieves come in here and are completely unapologetic and they refuse to even respond to reason, I DO attack them...they make me sick. Excuse after excuse after excuse. The bottom line is, they think they should get Cubase for free. If all of us did this, there would be no Cubase and there is no disputing that.

I DON'T know how you can hate justice, and choose to live in a country who's motto is 'freedom, and justice for all'.

I DON'T know how you can try to say Hitler was good. I think you have been exposed to some whacky propaganda.

I just don't understand your logic in most of your posts. Maybe it's the language barrier, maybe not.

Anyhow, I'm done. I hope you come to realize how tightly your concern with the economy and the stealing of products in America are tied. That was the main point until you went off on 'justice being unjust' and 'hitler was great'. That's just too far out there man. I hope you get those brainwaves you were talking about all in tune and you buy everything you use, rather than steal it.

You don't need to bother responding, this time I am really done.
 
sorry, but im going to respond saying that, I hate this country and am making plans to move out ( to many people like you here) and that, hitler provided many advances in technology, that we use in this country to this day. I did not saying everything he did was good. And that I was diagnosed recently with dysgrahpia. Its a condition when I write or type, my brain doesnt connect with my hand. I basicly have troubles getting my ideas down. Ive always been able to come up with really good ideas, but writing a 1 page paper at school could take me a week to do so. I am not retarded, so therefore, you did use the word "Retard" incorrectly. Besides being retarded isnt always a bad thing. You can stop and think about something better than someone who isnt "retarded", which is actually proven to be true. But hey, im dumb and I know shit about it!!! :) :) :) keep up with the new times man, an old guy like you is slowing down!! haha, thats also true to!!! did you know a males brain mass starts shrinking at 30-35, and you being 34? proboly has already started!!!! Anyways, you'll want to keep doing brain excercises to man, otherwise you might end up dying because you forgot how to take a piss or how to breathe!!!! and quit being stupid to, because it wont keep your brain up to a desired strength!!! anyways, last word here. :) :D :) :rolleyes: :p :p :p

P.s. our countrys motto is "freedom and justice for all" but thats the keyword, its the motto, and being a motto doesnt mean its "reality", if it was then it would be called "the reality" not "the motto"!!!! :D :D :D

P.s.s ive never stolen any physical objects. Even as a kid never stole anything. Which I cannot hold, I essentially cannot steal, because isnt stealing taking someones personal object? Piracy is different, but essentially the same!!! :eek:
 
Bass Master "K" said:
Well, I know I said I was done, but seeing as how the tone has changed, let me say this.
You don't need to bother responding, this time I am really done.
old guy is getting tired!!!!!! gotta keep up man before you get phased out!!! oh, it will happen, no doubt there!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
 
you have got to be one of the BIGGEST jackass's ever to grace this forum exojjl...keep it up and the mods just might make you disappear :rolleyes:
 
Markaholic said:
you have got to be one of the BIGGEST jackass's ever to grace this forum exojjl...keep it up and the mods just might make you disappear :rolleyes:
other assholes bring out the asshole in me!!! I usually say jack shit unless spoken to (asshole being asshole to me), Ive always done it that way!!! :) :D :p :eek:
 
Markaholic said:
you have got to be one of the BIGGEST jackass's ever to grace this forum exojjl...keep it up and the mods just might make you disappear :rolleyes:
would the mods want me to take away their constitutional freedom of speech right?!?! :eek:
 
exojjl said:
I can prove to you that in spite of my age, I am not really a young person, or shall I say, I really dont fit into my generation, and that I know what right and wrong is, and that in a philosopical sense, there really isnt no right or wrong. Simply put, wrong is a company putting software out on there market that is easily hackable when in fact, it is totally possible (to my knowledge of programming) to make a program not hackable. Do you really think they dont want to totally get rid of hacking? just like any other crime, our law enforcement feeds crime, they dont want to stop crime! why you ask? its right in your fuckin face fool! if they stoped crime then that would cut jobs seeing as why would we need cops to stop crime that isnt happening? If "you" have an open mind about what im saying, you can try and understand or at least look at one particular subject in more than one way, or just under a different light in the sense that I can view a subject on both negative and positive, and come up with facts on how i support both sides of any given subject. Im no nazi, but thanks to hitler for the many good things he provided.
See what you dont realize about my generation is that, what you said is true, but there are fewer and fewer exceptions as we progress through each generation. Do you have kids? and if so, do you let them watch tv? if you ask me thats a mistake 10x bigger than using illegal software. :eek: eek, thats right!


This is clearly why abortion was invented. Mods can you ban this guy, I some sure a couple of people have already lost brain cells reading this idiots mind numbing drivel.
 
exojjl said:
ACTUALLY, thats where you are wrong. I have not an ounce of racism. In fact I really dont even know what racism is. I was born in a family without racism, with friends who are not racist, and I myself have african/portugeese/german/irish/spanish/dutch and a bunch more of blood in me. The reason why I know nothing about racism is in fact because I am human, and that anyone human certainly cant be racist against another human without being racist toward them self (i know that is kind of twisting the term "race" around) but I mean how can you hate another human for having different skin color or something when in fact, you are exactly the same, in what makes you human. Racism is just sick, and people who label others as racist arnt helping the problem of racism. Get off your lazy fucking asses and do something about it if you dont like it. Fucking assholes, your all lazy sheep.

peace all,

Sir, most of your comments don't make any sense. I can forgive that because maybe English isn't your first language. But you make inflammatory comments without understanding the subject, and react strongly to others' comments without understanding what they are saying. You need to calm down and treat people properly or leave this forum.

There is such a thing as racism, and for you to tell me that you are not racist because it is impossible for a human to be racist is untrue. You have indeed twisted the term race around and that completely invalidates your argument. Discrimination towards another person based on their race is called racism. Using the term ****** is exhibiting racism. This is a derogatory term used towards a specific race, therefore it is racist. You have used this term repeatedly on this forum and refused to apologize for it. This makes you a racist.
 
exojjl said:
The reason why I know nothing about racism is in fact because I am human, and that anyone human certainly cant be racist against another human without being racist toward them self (i know that is kind of twisting the term "race" around) but I mean how can you hate another human for having different skin color or something when in fact, you are exactly the same, in what makes you human.
peace all,


I missed this gem. How old are you again? Watching a little too much star trek? I'm going to wash my eyes out with acid.
 
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