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I realize I haven't been around here to help too much lately, but hopefully I'll get some help regardless of my selfish behavior.
Anyway, I'm working on this tune, it's my second real attempt at recording my own vocals (ugh). The performance is shakey at best, but I'm most concerned with getting the low end of this mix worked out. That's always one of the hardest things for me.
I've left this song a lot simpler guitar-wise than usual, because I think I have a tendency to overdo things. Anyway, I'm really wanting to get this done so I can move on, and any suggestions will be appreciated.
Only a Word
 
I wish I could help on the low end but I'm on my pc so its useless. The rest of it sounds pretty pro to me. Great job.
 
I listened to it, and I can hear those low end problems, but it seems that I'm not qualified enough to help you with this - sorry :(
 
Hey Buster,
...Im on a pc too man, so no help with the subtle lows coming from me. I always look forward to hearing your tunes for one big reason (aside from fine tunes), your guitars. You get very nice sounding big guitars.... ....this'n is no exception. What is your guitar chain? Nice vocs too btw. Dont downplay yourself, i dig your singing. ...nice bgv's too.
gw/5.... ...cause buster's gits kick my arse:)
 
smokin tune and mix. The only thing I saw on the analyzer was a lot of meat down around 60 hz. That could be some of your mud. The snare is gettin in your vocals a bit too.
 
Why so humble?

No need to THINK about it cause you can DO it.
You know how many wannabes and posers out there would give their left nut to do what you can do?

That was a fine performance.(PERIOD)
Really man, good job, may be some mix issues bit who gives a f__k:D

Dan
 
I'm not near my monitors, so I can't really help with the mix much, if it needs it. But the song is really good! Guitars sound really good...none of that mid range buildup I always seem to get. Do you mike an amp or use a modeller?

Low end sounds fine on my girlfriend's pc, and the bass is a bit hyped on her system, like most stereos I guess. Good stuff!
 
Thanks everyone for the input. So far I haven't heard some of the things I expected to. I did a number of things differently with this one so I was still unsure of the results.
Ashulman: Thanks for the kind words!

Groovejunkie: Thanks for the listen, I can't figure it out either.

Guernica: Thanks for the guitar props, I spend quite a bit of time with them usually. This time I limited myself to only four guitar tracks. This time I ran all guits including acoustic and bass thru the Boss BR8 I used to record on before Sonar entered my life. It has quite a few parameters to dial in some sweet tones, but it's easy to go overboard. My gits always sound about the same by the time I'm done, no matter how I recorded them. I'm not sure what that means. I think it's mostly because I usually do the main riff on two separate tracks panned about 35-40% L&R. Then most times I layer in some texture git tracks but I took it easy on this one.

Toki: Good ears on the snare/vox. Any ideas how I can notch them in a little better?

HeavyD: Well, I hate to admit it, but the vocal is actually a composite of about 10 takes and this was as close to passing as I could get. I managed to leave the autotune off tho. (major accomplishment, although it's still pitchy). Correction, the BG's in the chorus have some autotune on them. Just a little.

Tom: Thanks for taking the time. Like I told "G", these gits were all modeled. I like it better when I can mic my amp because it just sounds better, but usually by the time I get to record the baby is sleeping and the wife is studying so there's no way I can get a good level since my house is so damn small.
BTW, I listened to your latest post. Somehow all your stuff sounds different yet instantly recognizable as being yours. I love it all, man. I have a SLuICe CD in my car.

Thanks all. I'm hopefully going to get a chance to fool around with it a bit tonight. Plus I'm going to work on my collab with my new HRC4 partner, so lots on the agenda tonight!
 
very cool song.. That's the BR-8 distortion on the guitars? interesting.. from your post I was expecting some really bad vocals but these are good.. just need to be tightened up.. I didn't hear a problem with the bass.. actually, I dont think a little more bass volume would hurt.. good tune..




btw, - W.I.S.C.'s computer will be fixed soon.. he told me to give you a shout and say he'll be in touch when he can..
 
B.Sab: Yup, it's the BR-8, but tweaked quite a bit. the presets are all messed up. Thanks for the kindness regarding the vox. Glad to hear WISC will be back in action soon. Now that I've got two partners (is that fair?) I can't wait to hear how differently the two turn out. It's going to be awesome. One is heavy, one is mellow and my own stuff kind of fits smack dab in the middle.
 
mbuster said:
I realize I haven't been around here to help too much lately, but hopefully I'll get some help regardless of my selfish behavior.
Anyway, I'm working on this tune, it's my second real attempt at recording my own vocals (ugh). The performance is shakey at best, but I'm most concerned with getting the low end of this mix worked out. That's always one of the hardest things for me.
I've left this song a lot simpler guitar-wise than usual, because I think I have a tendency to overdo things. Anyway, I'm really wanting to get this done so I can move on, and any suggestions will be appreciated.
Only a Word
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Guitars kickin' nicely and recorded nicely throughout. Need more bottom end here (kick drum and bass carefully EQ'D to compliment kick drum). Need more top end there as well. :) There are some high amplitudes in the 60-100 hz range as stated in previous post. Great vocals. Expressive. This tunes BEGS for some breakaway instrumental solo(s) in between vocals. Intonation almost there. Some words difficult to comprehend. May be the genre. Excellent sound. Best of luck. Enjoyed your stuff! ---Lee
 
Really good tune.

I would have doubled those bkgrnd vocals and pushed them right and left and back in the mix, with some echo. They tend to dominate the center a little too much on the chorus. The vocal kind of bunches up in the middle when all the voices get going. Push some things out away from the middle.

The tone of the reverb/delay on the main vocal bothers me a little bit. I would have Eqd it a little different. Maybe emphasize a different freq. range other than one the main vocal occupies. It kind of bunches up in the nasally mid tones with the vocal.

That's my only points. Oh the guitar at the end fades out too quickly let that sucker ring and then follow it by a drum roll or something going off in the distance.

OK that's alot of comments for something I really liked. Excellent job overall. I bought into the song and nothing was really ugly. Nice mix.
 
Really cool drums... bass sounds rich like choco-latte... nice voice. Really sweet balance so far!

Snare sounds really tiny for this song... a gunshot would match the power better IMNSHO.

Would like more presence on the doubled vocal...

Preference would have guitars w/a slightly "darker" distortion on em... a darker tone.

Overall very cool. Sounds like the type of music that "tubedude" records.

Nice job!


Chad
 
SoundDiagnosis: Thanks man, glad you like it. Which vocals lines are hard to make out? I know them all, so it's hard for me to tell where the trouble is!

Middleman: All very good suggestions and I'm going to play with it tonight! good ideas!

Participant: Thanks for the input. I'm taking all this in and think it will help. Thanks G

Ped: you tell me! That's why I posted it!
 
it's my second real attempt at recording my own vocals
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:confused: Why?:) Vocals rock dude...I wanna hear what your singing though. Your guitar's ( as great as they sound ) and they do, seem to be over powering everything else in the picture. I'd say bring 'em down some or everything else up a tad...leave some room for the voc's though..you have a great voice man, don't cover it up. Liked the b'g vox..they seem to fit to me. Just my humble thought's dude:) , first tune i've heard from you..won't be the last!

David
 
Freshears: thanks for the ideas. I decided to give myself a few days away from this tune since I think I'm making it worse now. I always go too far. Anyway I'm gonna go at least two days without even listening to it, then come back and see what hits me.

Thanks everybody for all the help. I think most of these suggestions are finding their way into the mix.
 
Don't give up on me, man. Just busy.

As for this song, I think what everybody else said is probably right; I mean, I haven't listened yet or anything, and I haven't read the comments about the tune that I haven't listened to, but I see some trustworthy souls above this post. :D

Okay, keep your panties on...I'll listen.

...(listens)

This is a solid recording. You know me, I like open choruses like this. Song's got meat too...family, is there anything they can't inspire, lol.

THICK...like my skull.

WTF is up with the ending? lol...that's really the only thing that stuck out to me. You're done, man. Good song.
 
Chris: If you have time to type shit like that you have time to WORK ON MY SONG!
I'm just kidding, I know how busy big, important Texas "attourneys" can be. Ha ha.
No, really, take your time and hit me with a winner. I'm in no hurry with that one. And when I say "no hurry" I mean "hurry up dammit"


You just made me realize I never clarified "WTF is up with the ending"
You see, I considered this mix to be rough enough not to bother fixing the fades I screwed up. I didn't notice it until I had already posted, and it's no longer present in more current incarnations of the tune.

(edit) thanks for the postive feedback
 
Thanks man...it's on the front burner on the music side...just a lot of other crap on fire right now.

You know, the only problem you have from the music side is your name..."MBuster"... I keep expecting Hip Hop, lol.

bye
 
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