Console View in HS2002

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I've finally got the input level set right for recording my guitar, but now it's not as loud as the imported audio that I'm using. It's way quieter. I'm sure it's supposed to be adjusted from the Console View, but they don't give you much room to raise the volume. What's the deal there? Most of the whole volume band is negative volume. I don't understand that...
 
Where is the imported audio coming from. It's likely that it has at some point been compressed and/or limited, and that's why it's louder than your recorded material.

Also, in digital audio 0db is the highest you can go without clipping. So that's why the numbers are negative - you really don't want to exceed 0db, as digital clipping can be quite nasty. That's also why the meters are in red above 0.
 
dachay2tnr said:
Where is the imported audio coming from. It's likely that it has at some point been compressed and/or limited, and that's why it's louder than your recorded material.

Also, in digital audio 0db is the highest you can go without clipping. So that's why the numbers are negative - you really don't want to exceed 0db, as digital clipping can be quite nasty. That's also why the meters are in red above 0.
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I'm just using a sampled loop that came with HS2002 to mess with. That's what I meant by imported audio. Sorry for any confusion.

Thanks for that great info on digital clipping. I was really wondering about that.
 
Are you connecting the guitar direct into your sound card or going through your guitar amp?

There should be a line-in fader in your audiocard's mixer that will allow you to boost the line-in signal.

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BluesMeister
 
I'm currently plugging my guitar straight into the sound card.

Ahhh, the line-in fader! Is that what I need to mess with? Thanks. I'll try that...
 
You really should amplify your signal in a way, such as micing up an amp, using a mixer or an amp.simulator... ;)
 
moskus said:
You really should amplify your signal in a way, such as micing up an amp, using a mixer or an amp.simulator... ;)
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Would going through an effects processor such as a Line 6 POD or Digitech RP model unit work? I'm just trying to nail down how to record direct in. My preference is to mic an amp, but I'm wanting the best of both methods.

I could also try using the Record Out jack on my amp.
 
A normal effects processor is not going to get the level up where your need it, but the stuff lyou mentioned ike POD or Vamp are amplifier modelers moreso than effects units, and they can be plugged right into your soundcard line-in with decent level. Your guitar amp's "recording out" output is also hot enough, but you will most likely not be happy with the recorded sound that way.

Miking an amp will give the best results, followed by a POD or Vamp type modeler, followed up by a "recording output" of a guitar amp. All of these options will give you the line-level output you will need for recording into your soundcard at proper level.

I hope this information clears things up for you.
 
Robertyu is right! :)

I would recommend the POD or the V-Amp 2. I'm using the V-Amp 2 and I think it's good, but if I'm recording some "serious" material (as opposed to just play around) I mic up my beautiful 1965 Fender Pro Reverb... :)

I would never use the Direct/Recording Out on the amp itself, because it sounds awfull! :(

Good luck! :)
 
Thanks fellas. That definitely gives me a direction to head for. Although I'm a little confused as to what order I should run my signal chain. For instance, do I do as follows:

Guitar>Amp Processor>Amplifier; then mic the amp and run the cord from the mic to the sound card?
 
You need some mic.preamp of some sort... don't use the cards mic.inputs as these inputs are baaad... :D
 
Yeah, I'm wanting to get a preamp or mixer of some sort soon. I was thinking maybe a Behringer product. Small mixer or tube preamp? Any suggestions?
 
Most of us live happy with built in preamps on our mixer... for "homer" purpose, it serves all your need. IMHO, I'd rather go Mackie or Soundcraft over Behringer.

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Jaymz
 
Just a point here, but why would you want to use console view? You vcan do everything you want from track view. Just enable the "All" tab on the tracks (at the bottom). This will show you every conceivable property, including level indicators and slider control.;)
 
Extracted and amended from the Help file:

Volume Trim acts like the trim control on a mixer, raising or lowering the level prior to the volume fader.
The Volume Trim control has a range of -18dB to +18dB. Raising or lowering the Volume Trim raises or lowers the apparent volume of the track by that amount without affecting the actual fader level.

I bet you are glad you asked now?:D
 
shuggy said:
In terms of setting levels what's the Trim control for?
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FWIW, I never use it. It can be used to calibrate Sonar's volume control slider - if you find an overwhlming need to do that :).

The only other use I can think of would be to change the level of a track after you have placed track volume envelopes. In other words, the envelopes are all fine, but you want the entire track to come up 1 or 2 db's. However, I use Offset Mode for that purpose - but I guess trim control could be used as well.
 
Errrrrr - getting baffled now guys!

Whats offset mode?
Why would I want to calibrate my faders?

This is all starting to sound a little painful :D
 
It's not 'calibrate', it's "calibrate" if you get the difference. ;)

To go to "Offset Mode", just hit 'o'. Search for "Offset Mode" in Help.
 
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