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ok. im kind of confused how everyone lays down multitrack recordings. what i want to be able to do is have a separate track for each individual sound (5+ for drums, a couple for guitar, some for vocals etc...). now, i have the inputs to do this and i have a delta 1010 so i can do 10 simultaneous tracks into the computer.

my problem is running through a mixer. with my mackie, there isn't an out dedicated to each individual channel, which is what i need to keep each track separate, right? otherwise if i just take the main out, i've already mixed all the tracks down to 2 (one l, and r).

arrgh.
 
thats it, you need some buss on your mixer. If you use dynamic mics, you can try to insert the mics signal directly in the 1010 inputsm but... you wont end with the best signal ins you can. Or, you can try to get to your 1010 via the inserts of each channel (if they have some) on your board, but, you will end up with almost the same thing. Except you MAY be able to use some condenser mics....

So, yes, you need more outputs on you console.


---hope you can understand my english...apparently, it's getting better! :)
 
Most mackies have some inserts and/or direct chanel outs you can use, plus depending on the mixer, you can combine those with main or 'alt' outs, and even aux-outs to come up with more options.
Which mac' is it?
Wayne
 
im using the mackie 1202vlz. 12 channels but only four of them have inserts. i guess now my confusion is how to get them assigned to a channel with the delta 1010.

there are 8 inputs and in the software they are assigned in pairs (ie 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8) what do i do with that!?
 
figured it out. half of my problems are solved by distinguishing between trs and mono 1/4" plugs. why are there even trs? i think there should just be one signal per cable. too much confusion, too many standards.
 
skaltpunk said:
figured it out. half of my problems are solved by distinguishing between trs and mono 1/4" plugs. why are there even trs? i think there should just be one signal per cable. too much confusion, too many standards.
Nah. It all gets easier after a while. Promise.:D
 
skaltpunk said:
figured it out. half of my problems are solved by distinguishing between trs and mono 1/4" plugs. why are there even trs? i think there should just be one signal per cable. too much confusion, too many standards.

Look into the difference between balanced and unbalanced signals and it should make more sense.

TRS are also used for inserts where there is more than one signal.
 
I used to use a Darwin 8 track Hard Disk recorder. I sent the channels to my Yamaha mixer via snake. Then, I would send the tracks to the Darwin via the 4 aux sends. I had to group the drums as follows:

- the 2 bass drums to tracks 1/5
- the 4 toms to tracks 2/6
- the snare and hh to 3/7
- the 2 overheads to tracks 4/8

So basically, I had to pre-mix the tracks (like the toms) together so I could send them to one track. This worked out ok, after I got those drum tracks in I could go ahead and leave them on 5,6,7 and 8 freeing up 1-4 for guitar, vocals, and bass.
 
skaltpunk said:
figured it out. half of my problems are solved by distinguishing between trs and mono 1/4" plugs. why are there even trs? i think there should just be one signal per cable. too much confusion, too many standards.
It's not a case of "too many standards", it's a case of different wiring for different requirements.... as MasteringHouse said, you need to know the difference between unbalanced and balanced signals to understand when TRS and when TS is needed.
 
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