compressor rules and setting?????

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So lets talk about compression then i mean metal and thrash things

In compression too there are standards for all kind of genre but for hard core music there is little known and compression can make the sound right on your face what hard core music needs.....................please tips for hardcore music compression..........

for guitar bass drums...........how to or just by listning or ...........anything

lets see how it goes..................

:) i dont feel bad lets feel free and share our knowledge.............
 
That's the thing - There *are no standards* for anything. You listen to the track and you do what you need to do to make it sound the way you want it to sound.

Any settings that anyone could even take a guess at would be totally dependent on the track itself - The timbre, the tempo, the apparent volume, the way it was mic'd, the way it fits in with the timbres and volumes of everything else - Just on the surface.
 
Massive Master said:
That's the thing - There *are no standards* for anything. You listen to the track and you do what you need to do to make it sound the way you want it to sound.

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i dont know shit, but i have to agree with this. i just do what needs to be done to get the best sound i can. its probably a good thing that i dont know many of these 'rules' and 'standards'. a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. ;)
 
$ .02

ok sherman set the way-back machine to the year 1973... you just happen to be playing inthe air force band (draft#6) when they bring in a 1/2" 2trk ampex ... life will never be the same... when you finally encounter compressor.. seams pretty strange... lts see .. how much of the signal do i want to get through before i squash the fuck out of it? might want to try the attack for that... hemh... if i use less ratio and start kicken it in at a lower level??? wow i dont notice it as much hemmm... ok sowhatta think?? if i use ahigher ratio and vary the kickin... wow all kindsa shit ohh thats even kinda sustainy... nah.. ratio the hell outta it.....

btw rami i thionk you've only got part of the story on the deevolving thing... nay have to start an OT...

"I've dropped my bong and cant get up..."
 
I think here's where much of the rookie confusion often lies...

There are some "standards" - though I prefer to call them boring cliches - for how many mixes within certain genres of music wind up sounding. However, the way in which one winds up with those cloned sounds is entirely dependant upon the source material one is working with. One cannot say, for example, that you have to apply "X" compression at "Y" threshold, or you need to cut "A" dBs at "B" frequency without knowing the nature of the original recording. It's really as simple and as complicated as that.

Since everybody seems to either love or hate my analogies, let me simultaneously make them happy and sad at the same time with another one ;) . It's like having a big chunk of rock and asking what size and kind of chisel should I use, where should I use them, and how many times should I hit them with a mallet if I want to wind up with Michaelangelo's David?

The only answer one can give is that the fact that everybody wants to sculpt a copy of David does not mean that everybody should use the same tools the same way in the same places. It depends upon the kind of rock you have and what it's starting shape and size are. Somebody starting out with a 12-foot round piece of granite needs to do something entirely different than someone with a 6-foot rectangular piece of marble. All you can do is use your eyes to figure out what part of the rock does not belong in the final statue and to start chipping away at it using the best size and type of chisel for each stage of the job.

Bigyan, go ahead and read through that tutorial; many of the questions you are now asking are already answered in there.

G.
 
I loose my dynamics when i compress.....

thanks south side glen i am reading your tutorials.........its cool..its helpin me a lot

I dont know whether i over compress or under the main fader is going up and down until i put the compressor ........

when i put the compressor the fader are like still and the waveform is like

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parallel so i am using the compressor as a limiter or so in music is also there are no standard but when you learn the standard then only you can go beyond and become creative.......................

there are no standard its true but we need to learn some basic things

 
RAMI said:
Nobody's fighting...I guess you misunderstood the posts AFTER my admittedly un-called for remark on your English. I was apologising for not realising that English is not your first language. There is no fight.
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exactly. I failed to see any "fighting" tones in this thread. I must be going def :D


Let's "compress" the situation
 
bigyandixit said:
thanks south side glen i am reading your tutorials.........its cool..its helpin me a lot

I dont know whether i over compress or under the main fader is going up and down until i put the compressor ........

when i put the compressor the fader are like still and the waveform is like

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parallel so i am using the compressor as a limiter or so in music is also there are no standard but when you learn the standard then only you can go beyond and become creative.......................

there are no standard its true but we need to learn some basic things
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i AM sTARTING tO tHInk TaHT dIS is A PRacTIkaL JOKe.
 
"cumpreshun is good..........i like cumpreshun."

no really,......ill use compression on individual tracks ( if needed) and use it lightly.........and sometimes find out that i wont need one later down the road durring the mastering part. usually ill like to use a multi-band compressor on the final product......but ive noticed alot latley that when i use comprssion durring the mixing part on individual tracks......the over all stereo master doesnt really need compression. but ill still use the multi-band just to get the overall mix more balance if it needs it, but i wont touch the compression part of the multiband....only the gain outputs of the bands.

go figure..... :)
 
on a note similar to this..........if anybody is familiar with the psychobilly band Tiger Army, you'll probably know what i mean. I love how their mixes sound and overall volume. When i put one of their wav files into my music production software, i see that the wav files just looks like one massive block with the peaks kinda cut off and they never go past the 0 level. How exactly do i get my mixes like that? I kinda get em like that but i pretty much dont know exactly how i am using the compression or limiting. Sometimes it might sound loud but very warped and garbled. Still a bit confusing for me. My band uses electric guitar, acoustic guitar and upright bass and vocals.
 
rockabilly1955 said:
on a note similar to this..........if anybody is familiar with the psychobilly band Tiger Army, you'll probably know what i mean. I love how their mixes sound and overall volume. When i put one of their wav files into my music production software, i see that the wav files just looks like one massive block with the peaks kinda cut off and they never go past the 0 level. How exactly do i get my mixes like that? I kinda get em like that but i pretty much dont know exactly how i am using the compression or limiting. Sometimes it might sound loud but very warped and garbled. Still a bit confusing for me. My band uses electric guitar, acoustic guitar and upright bass and vocals.
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by thousands of dollars worth of mastering equipment, learn how to use it, and you too have have blobish waveforms.
 
am i in homerecording.com?? or wannabecomedian.com?
 
You may like the sound of a song with all the dynamics crushed out of it until the waveform is flattened into a 0dBFS square wave, but I guarantee you that the experienced engineers who made it that way did so with a loaded gun (or at least a loaded paycheck) to their heads. If they had their way they'd have burnt those session disks or tapes rather than release them in that shape because they heard how much better it sounded before they threw the mix against the wall. And the only reason they threw their mix against the wall was because the producer or the artist put the gun to their head and told them to "make it louder."

The only way to be able to do that and to still have it be listenable to to do a pristine job on quality gear with experienced technique all through all three stages of the production, especially starting with the tracking. It has to sound absolutely superb at mxdown before you can crush the life out of it in mastering and still expect it to sound passable.

Yes this is homerecording.com. This is not prorecording.com. You want to make something that sounds like a pro recording, you have to do it like a pro, not like a part-time home recorder.

G.
 
thanks for the info southside.......it makes sense. Hey comedian........ i got a perfect idea for you. Make a home recording of your comedy act, have the guy that asked in another thread if anybody wanted to master his album for free, have him master it for you and then sell the cds out the trunk of your car. And i might buy a copy
 
I am totally freaked :mad: by this bullshit comedian things and just whats happening to you guys

i see less compression thing and more of bullshit there .............. :o


I have found idea that my wave form is parallel may be beacuse of high :) compression ration so i am focusing that my compressor may act as a limiter here..
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what is the effect of loosing the dynamics of the song can some one explain

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this is the type when the dynamics is lost and still some songs rock..

can any one say if the above song would have full dynamics then it would rock more

or something that may effect

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rockabilly1955 said:
thanks for the info southside.......it makes sense. Hey comedian........ i got a perfect idea for you. Make a home recording of your comedy act, have the guy that asked in another thread if anybody wanted to master his album for free, have him master it for you and then sell the cds out the trunk of your car. And i might buy a copy
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i dont know if a comedy act would actually need any 'mastering'.
 
Hey no fair. My "eyesight improved" remark was refering to the size of the font Bigyandix used on his last post. It was HUGE. Now he made it small again. My post was funny and nobody will change my mind about that. :D :D :D :D

For the rest of you who have, like, less than 50 posts: Don't come in here telling people how to respond and what to do with their humor. Take your fingers out of your ass and get a life. He got the answers to his question about 15 posts ago. You don't like humor? Turn off the internet. What are you??? Baptists???
 
alright "gold member" of an internet board. I bet you get discounts everywhere you shop when u say that u are a gold member of a message board eh?? :D
 
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