comments on behringer mixers with preamp

[MISTERQCUE]

I've owned an MX series mixer and I own the DDX3216 and I wish I'd saved my money. It's my experience that people who uphold behringer as a good investment "in the recording industry" are sadly misguided and likewise misguiding others. I too bought with the mindset that I could get "more for my money" by going the Behringer route. I wish I could turn back time and kick myself in the head. I bought my DDX when they were $999 without an expansion card. I should've saved and saved and saved some more. My recordings sound like they were tracked and mixed in a toilet and I know it's the behringer. I'll be smarter next time around. Do yourself a favor and be smarter the first time. You won't regret it.

That's what i've been trying to say for the past 5 1/2 yrs!!!

 

[Peetr3]

I never did like behringer products. Try a Mackie mixer.

I have a 16 channel mackie mixer, does this mean I need to spend money on a preamp?

 

[cafr]

I have a 16 channel mackie mixer, does this mean I need to spend money on a preamp?

People say to get the best mic you can afford and then get the mic preamp next. If you've got a crappy mic and no pre, it will be crappy audio and if you've got the nicest pre that money can buy but you're still using your rat shack $40 mic, it will still sound terrible.

Buy what you need and what you will use. I'm barley getting started in this hobby/industry but I see no reason to have gear that you will use---just like with anything in life. Use it or sell it and get something you will use.

 

[sajs]

I am not against all Behringer products. I own a few items that sound and work just fine.

I do own a Eurorack mixer with the 24 bit multi-fx processor. It wasn't the right mixer for me.

I ended up buying another mixer. I own a Soundcraft M-Series with the digital output. What a great sounding mixer. Super quiet preamps and excellent eq. I wish I would have just saved my money an purchased the Soundcraft first.

I would be happy to sell you my Behringer mixer if you are still interested.
It's the MX1804X Eurorack. It's in 100% working condition, includes the manual.

http://www.behringer.com/mx1804x/index.cfm?lang=ENG

 

[tunemaker]

Have you used any other mixer other than your Miss3282?

Only a Yamaha 24ch 4buss ( can't remember the model# MG24 something)
And a 20Ch 4buss Alto
And a 16Ch Alto

I Know .. Not much to compare it to .. but like I said its doing the trick for now .. Sure soon as $$ permits I'll be looking at something better .. Still not over the hill thou .. mabe something like the Allen & Heath I was eying up at my local music store the other day ( $5800.00 Can ) I'm gona have to save .. so much other gear to buy as well also ... Where to begin ... ?????

For now at least I'm making tunes instead of being Gear Broke ....

 

[jaykeMURD]

Hey, I've had my Behringer UB1222FX-PRO for about 2 months now, with moderate-to-heavy use. I use in in conjunction with my preamps (Tube MP, Behringer Ultragain MIC200). I bought it for recording drums..6 XLR (4 IMPs), and 4 more line-ins, just what I need to record my kit. Behringers "IMP" preamps sound OKAY considering the price, but there is a VERY big difference in sound quality, depth, and livliness between them and my external preamps....TUBE preamps. Overall, on a budget, Behringer mixers are decent. If you take care of them, and don't move them around a lot, they seem to survive fine. Of course, I'm a total audiophile and I take excellent care of all my stuff....maybe a little too much!

 

[MISTERQCUE]

Only a Yamaha 24ch 4buss ( can't remember the model# MG24 something)
And a 20Ch 4buss Alto
And a 16Ch Alto

I Know .. Not much to compare it to .. but like I said its doing the trick for now .. Sure soon as $$ permits I'll be looking at something better .. Still not over the hill thou .. mabe something like the Allen & Heath I was eying up at my local music store the other day ( $5800.00 Can ) I'm gona have to save .. so much other gear to buy as well also ... Where to begin ... ?????

For now at least I'm making tunes instead of being Gear Broke ....

I hear ya' dude!

I'm no pro engineer or some gear snobbist either. I just know for a FACT the Beh's line of mixers are horrid based on A/B/C & even D comparisons perf'md HERE, at Sam Ash, in 3 pro studios and several "live" venues where Beh was totally crushed in ever category! My 1st board was the MX 2624 and it was the worst gear experience I've ever been thru.
True, Beh DOES have SOME useful products such as the ECM8000 omni, AutoComm & Composer Pro comps, but as a whole Beh's cosmetically appealing units and lo-looooow price deceptively entices the unknowing consumer to buy into their hype eventually purchasing 1 of thier line of wack-@ss, bottom-feeding mixers.
Trust me dude, I too was a card-carrying member and proponent of Beh mixers & gear until my ears were awakened by others who then went on to teach me the real-deal on Beh's line of crap.

99.6% of us here are on some extreme budget or another and can't afford to buy SSL's, Ghosts, A&H & the like however the are other budget-price alternatives that offer much better in the way of price, perf, reliability,& quality!
Just remember that none of these alternatives is named BEHRINGER!

 

[Treeline]

I have a 16 channel mackie mixer, does this mean I need to spend money on a preamp?

You already have a Mackie mixer and you're thinking about buying a Behringer? Nope. That's the wrong direction.

I think for the budget you have, you might get better acquainted with the Mackie and either spring for some books on audio engineering or else put it away for a better piece of gear in a simple signal chain, like a better mic.

If it's an older Mackie, the DMP3 pramp will be an improvement over the board's preamps - smoother, quieter, enough to hear but still nothing to knock you out. The Mackie pres can be a little harsh but you're still ahead of the Behringer.

 

[MISTERQCUE]

Overall, on a budget, Behringer mixers are decent. If you take care of them, and don't move them around a lot, they seem to survive fine. Of course, I'm a total audiophile and I take excellent care of all my stuff....maybe a little too much!

"Take care of them?" HOW?

"Don't move them around a lot?" WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

andddddddd..........you're a "TOTAL AUDIOPHILE !!??" using Behringer? Do you consider Behringer to be "audiophile-type" gear??


Kindly respond!

 

[Treeline]

Easy on him, Bro.. You're still smarting from getting singed.

Besides, it's not bad advice. In fact I bet I could take really good care of my Behr. 2 channel mixer by putting it right back in the box!

Instead, it gets thrown in the bottom of a toolbox in my live rig to split a subwoofer signal. It'll be "good while it lasted..."

Stay warm, QQ!

 

[soundchaser59]

The best preamps in budget mixers are on the Mackies.......1202, 1402, 1604......vlz series.

 

[MISTERQCUE]

Easy on him, Bro.. You're still smarting from getting singed.

Besides, it's not bad advice. In fact I bet I could take really good care of my Behr. 2 channel mixer by putting it right back in the box!

Instead, it gets thrown in the bottom of a toolbox in my live rig to split a subwoofer signal. It'll be "good while it lasted..."

Stay warm, QQ!

Yeah Glen, you're right!!!
My bad!

Mannnn, I just get so hyped when I see a Behringer mixer thread it makes me lose control!!!!!!!

Truthfully, I still own and occassionally use some Beh gear every now & then
such as the Intelligate for it's Hi/Lo filters; Composer Pro for that rare occassion when the dynamics of my XP30 "brass/reed" patches need that certain "tweak" of peak-leveling control, and some sort of "ambience/acoustics" capture of background perfs using a ECM8000 omni.

But honestly G-Tree, a person who swears by Beh's line of mixers and pre-amps w/o having the benefit of A/B comparison with other units on this level, are either in denial or just refuse to learn! I've been there! Shoot, if you're on a extreme budget, start off with a Tascam 424 whose noise-levels are rated lower the any of Beh's mixers even when Dolby NR is incorporated!

If I can help it, I'll continue on my "Crusade" against Beh mixers and cheap-@ss pre's hoping to spare those of the "pain" I endured using that crap!

 

[les666paul]

I never did like behringer products. Try a Mackie mixer.

ive had good luck with mackies vlz pro line
i also am within a half hour drive of woodinville, WA where mackie is based.

there also not real expensive

 

[threshhold2]

i use BEHRINGER mixers for years, and they are great, and cheap too. but-if you really want decent preamplification, get a preamp, and don't settle for the mixer's ones. it aint enough.

 

[jaykeMURD]

"Take care of them?" HOW?

"Don't move them around a lot?" WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

andddddddd..........you're a "TOTAL AUDIOPHILE !!??" using Behringer? Do you consider Behringer to be "audiophile-type" gear??


Kindly respond!

I just haven't messed with any other mixers. I'm sure, once I use a higher-end mixer, I'll despise Behri's! But for drums (what I use it for) it gets the job done.
Oh, what I meant about taking care of them and not moving them much is simple...I haven't really moved mine since I took it out of it's box. I don't use it live, or even take it anywhere.

 

[chris-from-ky]

For the thread starter... What is the recording medium? Reel to reel, adat, hard disk, or your PC hard drive? If you can mix in a PC, then you can just spend your money on a nice interface, mic, pre, and a/d converter. Basiaclly, what's your WHOLE signal chain from mouth to ears?

 

[The Axis]

I had a Behringer, and now I have a Mackie (1202 VLZ).
If I ever need another, I will buy Behringer. The preamps on the Behringer sound very good. It is robably the cheapest way to get a lot of good mike preamps.