Click Track problems argh!!

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Have you tried tracking all the other instruments to those drums tracks and then listening? Do you hear that click track when all the other instruments are in the mix? I doubt you will. In parts where the drums are not playing, you may need to turn down the drums parts in the mix, but you should be doing that anyway.

The "phase reversal" trick suggested has about a 1% chance of working. For that to work perfectly, the tone of the leakage going to the mics would have to be EXACTLY the same as the click track, and because of many factors, the leakage sounds VERY different at the mics than the original click track does. The leakage is also time delayed from the original, thus phase reversal wouldn't work. Waste of time even trying.

Do a search on a product that I believe is called Extreme Phones. These headphones WILL NOT leak anything into the mic. But, they cost about $140. Well worth it though. If you are going to be recording a lot of drums, you will eventually buy them. Just get them now and you will never worry about headphone leakage on the drum mics again.

Good luck.

Ed
 
Thanks for the advice, but wesdr1 sayin "Also, make sure N-track is not recording the click track onto the drum track" has caught my attention, because it seems that the click noise is just too loud and perfect to be simply coming from the phones. So how would I be recording the click track onto the drum track, and how do I stop it if i am??! Help please!!
 
Click Track

It's a stretch but...

Mute the click track (and any other tracks) and just record the drums. If you still get the click track then you know something is set up wrong.

I don't know if this is your problem but, here is something from the N-Track website:

2.e - Q: I’m having feedback problems (the tracks recorded after the first all contain the preceding tracks)
A: Make sure you have selected the correct recording sources, and disabled all the other sources you are not using, in particular the "Wave Out" source. To do so:
run the Windows Volume Control (Start Menu/Accessories/Multimedia (or Entertainment in Windows 98)). Chose the Options/Properties menu command, select your soundcard and click on the “Recording” radio button. In the options dialog box make also sure that all the relevant signals are not hidden: the dialog box shows a list of the sources the mixer will show, and sometimes important sources may be hidden by default. After you click on OK the mixer will show the view of all the recording controls. Now remove the checkmark below the level slider of all the sources you don't plan to use, or don't know what they are for. Usually you will only need "Line In" or "Mic in".
Some soundcards (such as some Gravis's) always record the wave output on one channel (left or right) so to avoid feedback is necessary to pan all output to the other channel.
The "Getting Started/Setting the recording levels" help topic contains a brief explanation of how a soundcard internal mixer works.
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Hope this helps. Let me know how you fix the problem.
 
No still no luck, this is very very very very irritating! I can't do any recording because of this one stupid problem. I'm getting the same problem now micing a guitar amp with the distortion and volume up, I can't believe the mic is picking up a tiny click! ARGH!!!

(rant over...for now)
 
I think somehow the click track is being routed to the same input on your soundcard as the microphone(s).

I don't use n-track so don't have a clue as to where to even look. Some N-Track user out there must know what conditions this would occur under.

Check the input settings of the tracks your recording and the output settings (if any) of the click track channel.
 
Is any of your gear (soundcard, mics, headphones, etc...) goig through any kind of mixing board? You didn't mention it in your origional post, but I've seen many setups where a simple routing problem does this sort of thing.
 
Hawking said:
Is any of your gear (soundcard, mics, headphones, etc...) goig through any kind of mixing board? You didn't mention it in your origional post, but I've seen many setups where a simple routing problem does this sort of thing.
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Yeah, headphones & mics go into the mixer (behringer MX2642A), and the mixer goes into the soundcard. Mixer and soundcard are connected by 2 ins/2 outs leads, so 4 leads in all connecting the mixer and soundcard.
 
Did you check the Windows Audio Mixer and make sure that "What You Hear" isn't checked for input?????


Start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>VolumeControl

Then Options>Properties>Recording

Uncheck everything except your LineIn (or whatever port you are recording from)

"What You Hear" gets a lot of people.....
 
TimOBrien said:
Did you check the Windows Audio Mixer and make sure that "What You Hear" isn't checked for input?????


Start>Programs>Accessories>Entertainment>VolumeControl

Then Options>Properties>Recording

Uncheck everything except your LineIn (or whatever port you are recording from)

"What You Hear" gets a lot of people.....
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There is nothing under that menu!
 
Click Track

So you are saying that everything you record has a click track on it even if there is no click track playing back?

Can you record anything without a click track and get a clean recording?

Mabye you should mute MIDI playback as well.

I'm interested what this is just in case it happens to me.
 
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wedsr1 said:
So you are saying that everything you record has a click track on it even if there is no click track playing back?
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No. Sorry if I confused you on that!

Can you record anything without a click track and get a clean recording?

Mabye you should mute MIDI playback as well.
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I've been fiddling around with volume levels for a good 30 mins now. Right, let's see if I can explain this, I have 1 gain pot and a fader for each of these:

- 1 Shure SM-57 Overhead
- 1 '57 Kick Mic (at the moment)
- Input from the soundcard

Then I've got headphones volume, this increases the volume of both the metronome and the sound of the drums (or whatever the mics are picking up). So, increasing the volume on the headphones is pointless, because you'll drown out the metronome with the drum sound anyways!

Right... gain and fader on the inputs from the soundcard increase the volume on the metronome only. So, surely if I whack up the gain and faders on the two mics, I should get a louder drum sound with no increase in volume from the metronome? Correct!

BUT, I've pushed the drum volume as loud as it will go without clipping, and there's still a metronome sound! It is all but drowned out when I'm playing a beat (only when I play softly though, which is crap, I want to put emotion into my drumming), but as soon as there is a pause, on one song there's a cymbal hit and a pause for four beats...Guess what, that metronome comes clicking through!! ARGH!! I'm really losing it, spending so much on this recording equipment and not being able to do a single thing!

Please help me anyone before I jump out of the window!!
 
Click

If the click track is only there because of headphone bleed, looks like you may have to fiddle around with editing out the click.

If the click track is not too loud, you could also try a gate on the drum signal to filter out the click in those silent areas if you don't want to edit the signal.

You could set the gate to only trigger on signals louder than the click.

Hope this helps.
 
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wedsr1 said:
If the click track is only there because of headphone bleed, looks like you may have to fiddle around with editing out the click.

If the click track is not too loud, you could also try a gate on the drum signal to filter out the click in those silent areas if you don't want to edit the signal.

You could set the gate to only trigger on signals louder than the click.

Hope this helps.
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I'll look into that, thanks!
 
have you checked your metronome settings?

In n-track? On the toolbar, there is a metronome icon. There are multiple options in there for recording and playback. Try clicking those on and off and see what happens.

Or you can simply mute the metronome
 
Re: have you checked your metronome settings?

badassmak said:
In n-track? On the toolbar, there is a metronome icon. There are multiple options in there for recording and playback. Try clicking those on and off and see what happens.

Or you can simply mute the metronome
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The metronome doesn't work while recording. Something to do with the soundcard. That isn't the problem though!
 
Are you running leads out from the mixer into the soundcard, as well as leads out from the soundcard into the mixer?

What soundcard are you using?
 
badassmak said:
Are you running leads out from the mixer into the soundcard, as well as leads out from the soundcard into the mixer?

What soundcard are you using?
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Yes I am, from the aux sends on the mixer.

The soundcard is an Audiophile 2496.
 
Forgive me if you have answered this already, you may have, I'm in and out of it here.

Is the problem headphone bleed or an actual click track playing regardless of headphone bleed?
 
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