ola
Newbie
Just to let you know. The power supplies for the tube mics ar 220V/50Hz - 110V/60Hz switchable. That's what they say over at 797 anyway. I haven't tried their products but will soon...
Cheers
/Ola
Cheers
/Ola
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Recording Engineer
Moderator
I had a feeling that was the case. especially considering PMI will be distributing them in the US real soon for around $1kUS list.
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BlueNorthern
New member
As a rank rookie, I am very tempted to just wire a little money to this outfit, and gamble that the mic will be great quality, and have no problems for years, given reasonable care. It is good to contemplate the purchase of a large diaphragm condenser microphone at the cost of an SM58! I am concerned that it may be a waste of money. Something I cannot afford. I do not mind a knock-off if it works well. I remember a trip to TJ Mexico a few years ago, where you could buy a "Rolex". Of course it was counterfeit!
Thank you Recording Engineer, for your comments above. You have helped this novice decide to pay about $279 for a look-a-like from a US firm. I guess I will just go out on ebay for a look. Any other suggestions?
Thank you Recording Engineer, for your comments above. You have helped this novice decide to pay about $279 for a look-a-like from a US firm. I guess I will just go out on ebay for a look. Any other suggestions?
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Recording Engineer
Moderator
If the risk is really something you can't afford, then don't do it; please. I think you're on the right route by finding a well-taken care of used mic that you can depend on.
Like I said. I'm curious and have to try it out for myself. I'm fortunete enough to be able to afford to do this. Don't let it be something you depend on. That'll really increase your chances of it taking a sh*t.
Like I said. I'm curious and have to try it out for myself. I'm fortunete enough to be able to afford to do this. Don't let it be something you depend on. That'll really increase your chances of it taking a sh*t.
hixmix
Halibut, North Dakota
I'll take two from Column A.
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zidjan
New member
hi man i'll want to get one of those tubes. tell me how are we going to do it and i am in. i live in oregon and please reply me back to my email address at : zidjan@hotmail.com. i am really interested for the mic.
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music4all
New member
Try it if you can affort
I think these mikes are really impressive, not just price, but the spec. Who knows you might be the one who could own a first piece of history. So, if you can affort to try, get it.
Well, if any of you consider ordering Mikes in bulk, please count me in. $150 is just like few dinner times.
Dream on.
I think these mikes are really impressive, not just price, but the spec. Who knows you might be the one who could own a first piece of history. So, if you can affort to try, get it.
Well, if any of you consider ordering Mikes in bulk, please count me in. $150 is just like few dinner times.
Dream on.
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trebles
New member
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RussK
New member
It is interesting about looks being important. I just decided to take a chance on a SE electronics SE5000 tube Which Fielo assembled from parts manufactured by 797 or vice versa. For 300usd shipping included total it's hard to go too wrong. So far I'm making the rounds at places that do VO. Kicked butt on a 4033 for male voice at my shop, and at two radio stations it had a much more clear and defined low end than staple 421's (M through s) and RE-20's. The thing is, everyone thought it was the coolest thing they had ever seen. It does strongly resemble the AKG CR12 reissue. To them this mic could do no wrong. To me, it lacked some presence around 1.5-2K and had distinct overemphasis at about 15K. Overall in a mix with some needledrop, it was a great performer, requiring no addition EQ and minimal compression for radio/TV friendlyness.
Off to compare it to SM7 tomorrow followed by trips to some of my favorite 2inch trackers (with the big bucks mic cabinets) later in the month with tests to include the all important loud female vocals!
So to conclude, yes...I would be interested in giving them a shot, these 797 mics. When I contacted them in china they steered me to Studio Projects which is still on my to do list.
Someone E-mail me when it's time to become mic importers; I'm in!
Good-night,
Russ
Off to compare it to SM7 tomorrow followed by trips to some of my favorite 2inch trackers (with the big bucks mic cabinets) later in the month with tests to include the all important loud female vocals!
So to conclude, yes...I would be interested in giving them a shot, these 797 mics. When I contacted them in china they steered me to Studio Projects which is still on my to do list.
Someone E-mail me when it's time to become mic importers; I'm in!
Good-night,
Russ
Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
To the Group,
I think you are all are getting ahead of the game here. First of all, the initial contact with 797 goes back to 2000. 797 Audio is very well planted now, especially with what I am doing, and they do not sell direct to end users.
Since that old post before we got involved in 2000, the prices of the 797 Audio microphones have gone up quite a bit. In either case, I understand your thinking in trying to obtain some mics at a good price, but you ought to know that this will never happen. You simply can't buy from 797, with all due respect.
If you don't believe me, then simply jump on their website, or email them and try to buy. Ask for Ma Jiulong or Jessica, and see what your reply is.
For the record, the CR998 is now $999.00 at 100 units, so I am here to tell you that there is bad information going around regarding any of you buying from 797, but try if you must. I applaud your efforts, but at the same time, I do not want you to get your hopes up.
Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
I think you are all are getting ahead of the game here. First of all, the initial contact with 797 goes back to 2000. 797 Audio is very well planted now, especially with what I am doing, and they do not sell direct to end users.
Since that old post before we got involved in 2000, the prices of the 797 Audio microphones have gone up quite a bit. In either case, I understand your thinking in trying to obtain some mics at a good price, but you ought to know that this will never happen. You simply can't buy from 797, with all due respect.
If you don't believe me, then simply jump on their website, or email them and try to buy. Ask for Ma Jiulong or Jessica, and see what your reply is.
For the record, the CR998 is now $999.00 at 100 units, so I am here to tell you that there is bad information going around regarding any of you buying from 797, but try if you must. I applaud your efforts, but at the same time, I do not want you to get your hopes up.
Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
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jet-rocker
New member
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hk_mike
New member
Just wanted to clarify one point on ordering direct from 797. I e-mailed them a couple of weeks ago to enquire whether their products were sold in Hong Kong (where I live). I received an e-mail from Jessica saying that there was no distributor here, but that I could buy a microphone from them direct. I didn't pursue it however, as the microphone I wanted was the MXL 603 equivalent, and Jesica advised that whilst 797 makes the MXL 600, another factory in Southern China makes the MXL 603. I haven't found that factory, so it looks like I'll have to buy a mike that's been made in Southern China (probably within 100 km of where I am), shipped to the US, then shipped all the way back to me. Talk about going the long way!
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JPS
New member
I was told by the US distributor/owner of SE Electronics that all SE mics are made at the Feilo plant in Shanghai, China. That would indicate that the SE 5000 tube mice is also made there. Concerning the MXL603, I was told that a group of ex-Feilo employees left the company and are making this mic in another loaction, evidently for Marshal.
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BobHaymond
New member
c7sus
c7sus: Son, you should quit at the "That said" point. There seem to be many expert opinions on all sorts of recording issue in these posts. But what in the world made you think that you are so uniquely qualified on matters of life, philosophy, politics, and morality to presume to tell the rest of us how to live!!!!
I have views on the subject you raised but sure as hell ain't gonna give them here!
Bob Haymond
Clemson, SC
c7sus: Son, you should quit at the "That said" point. There seem to be many expert opinions on all sorts of recording issue in these posts. But what in the world made you think that you are so uniquely qualified on matters of life, philosophy, politics, and morality to presume to tell the rest of us how to live!!!!
I have views on the subject you raised but sure as hell ain't gonna give them here!
Bob Haymond
Clemson, SC
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Dragon
Large and Scaly Mixing Maniac
Er, Bob...
...I know where you're coming from, but you're talking back to a post that's six months old...
...I know where you're coming from, but you're talking back to a post that's six months old...
R
Recording Engineer
Moderator
Alright...
I really don't know how it is anymore guys... WAY too many mics from China to keep-up on. I don't know who's making what anymore!
I don't know if you can buy a mic or 10 mics, or 100 mics directly from 797, BUT, JUST as Alan said, it's easy to find out by e-mailing Ma at 797!
However, I REALLY suspect the prices won't be THAT great even if you can; even in the bulk of say 10-25! I mean with MXL, Studio Projects, and a few others being DAMN low in price already (at least in the US), I not sure it'd be much less buying directly; especially after shipping, insurance, and duties (which is roughly $50USD per mic, if not more now).
I think the only one that MAY possibly be low enough to make it worth-while is the CR998. Say you got 10-25 for about $500USD each (half the price they'd charge for one), well, I agree, that's a pretty nice deal; especially since the ADK A-51TT is going for $1600USD! BUT, the CR998s WERE going for quite a bit less than even that $500USD (given they'll even sell it that low) no more than a year and a half ago!
Also, remember the Studio Projects T3 is a modded CR998 and it's going for $700USD in the US! That's only $200 more than that $500 (IF you even get it THAT low). To me, that extra $200 is worth it!
...Just my thoughts on it...
Now, I'd be interested in their CR523 and even the CR722! It'd be interesting to hear one of those CR414s, but I JUST saw it's off their website along with the CR3000. I know AKG have REALLY been putting on the heat lately!
BUT, what I want to know is what is up with that NEW OEM section on their website?! The CR1000, CR2000, and TB1000? That CR2000... Hmmm more AKG? Though they use that case for the Nady SCM 950... Of course the CR1000 and TB1000 are used for the Nady TCM 1050 and Studio Projects mic. And there are the Studio Projects!
Hey Alan, by the way, what was the biggest improvement you made for the T3 from the CR998? Was it the capsule? Also, what's the C3? Oh hell with it, while we're at it, the C1? If you don't mind me asking...
I really don't know how it is anymore guys... WAY too many mics from China to keep-up on. I don't know who's making what anymore!
I don't know if you can buy a mic or 10 mics, or 100 mics directly from 797, BUT, JUST as Alan said, it's easy to find out by e-mailing Ma at 797!
However, I REALLY suspect the prices won't be THAT great even if you can; even in the bulk of say 10-25! I mean with MXL, Studio Projects, and a few others being DAMN low in price already (at least in the US), I not sure it'd be much less buying directly; especially after shipping, insurance, and duties (which is roughly $50USD per mic, if not more now).
I think the only one that MAY possibly be low enough to make it worth-while is the CR998. Say you got 10-25 for about $500USD each (half the price they'd charge for one), well, I agree, that's a pretty nice deal; especially since the ADK A-51TT is going for $1600USD! BUT, the CR998s WERE going for quite a bit less than even that $500USD (given they'll even sell it that low) no more than a year and a half ago!
Also, remember the Studio Projects T3 is a modded CR998 and it's going for $700USD in the US! That's only $200 more than that $500 (IF you even get it THAT low). To me, that extra $200 is worth it!
...Just my thoughts on it...
Now, I'd be interested in their CR523 and even the CR722! It'd be interesting to hear one of those CR414s, but I JUST saw it's off their website along with the CR3000. I know AKG have REALLY been putting on the heat lately!
BUT, what I want to know is what is up with that NEW OEM section on their website?! The CR1000, CR2000, and TB1000? That CR2000... Hmmm more AKG? Though they use that case for the Nady SCM 950... Of course the CR1000 and TB1000 are used for the Nady TCM 1050 and Studio Projects mic. And there are the Studio Projects!
Hey Alan, by the way, what was the biggest improvement you made for the T3 from the CR998? Was it the capsule? Also, what's the C3? Oh hell with it, while we're at it, the C1? If you don't mind me asking...
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Weston,
To understand the Chinese, you have to spend time with them. They are very matter of fact and have purpose in everything they do. This will be a long one folks.
Basically, China feels they are my partners, because their name is on my mic. To me, this is fine, because I am dedicated to the 797 factory because I know they can build the most consistent quality of any factory in China, and will do it my way.
Other branded importers get different models from different factories. Not that this is against the law, but 797 understand making mics for all of these other companies is not in the best interest for them.
These other companies only give 797 just a bit of the work, because companies like Fengli can build models cheaper, and the other companies want more profit. I won't go into why Fengli can build cheaper, but they can, so all the lower cost models come out of that factory. I think in time, 797 will no longer make any other mics other than Studio Projects, and no longer make the models they currently sell in China.
I am now basically their representative worldwide, with the exception of the OEM business, but if you notice when you click on their OEM link, it links to my Studio Projects site. So by 797 doing this, they have basically made me a partner, which is fine with me. They will always supply RODE with all the parts for their mics, but I think soon, you will see 797 phases out building for anyone else other than Studio Projects. It’s all a matter of time.
In a few months, a new line of Studio Projects microphones will come to the market to compete against all the models made by Fengli. Of course this is my claim, but we will be extremely low cost, but much better quality. You will be able to get a mic under $100.00 that will knock your socks off. It will be called the "B" Series and will ship before the end of this year.
As for the T3, we voice ours differently than the ADK A-51TT, we use a different capsule, body and headstock, and otherwise they are the same with the exception of the T3 being almost half the price.
As for the C3 and C1, it was planned for these mics to be good, but they turned out way better than we expected. I would love to say this was by design so I could brag, but everything fell into place with them, and they ended up as "Freaks Of Nature", but that's a good thing.
I hope you can understand my not wanting to go into too much detail on them, but 797 will no longer sell to anyone anymore with the exception of who they do business with now. As they phase out old relationships, all sales inquiries will be sent to me.
It is a new direction for 797 Audio and together, we have many things planned that I can't go into, but it is all great stuff. The benefit will be the reason I started this in the first place, which is to give the end user product that performs as good as the top guns for a fair, but low price. Studio Projects is not just a company with no audio background that decided to get into the mic business for profit like some others have. I have been doing this for over 30 years.
I hope that answers some of your questions.
To understand the Chinese, you have to spend time with them. They are very matter of fact and have purpose in everything they do. This will be a long one folks.
Basically, China feels they are my partners, because their name is on my mic. To me, this is fine, because I am dedicated to the 797 factory because I know they can build the most consistent quality of any factory in China, and will do it my way.
Other branded importers get different models from different factories. Not that this is against the law, but 797 understand making mics for all of these other companies is not in the best interest for them.
These other companies only give 797 just a bit of the work, because companies like Fengli can build models cheaper, and the other companies want more profit. I won't go into why Fengli can build cheaper, but they can, so all the lower cost models come out of that factory. I think in time, 797 will no longer make any other mics other than Studio Projects, and no longer make the models they currently sell in China.
I am now basically their representative worldwide, with the exception of the OEM business, but if you notice when you click on their OEM link, it links to my Studio Projects site. So by 797 doing this, they have basically made me a partner, which is fine with me. They will always supply RODE with all the parts for their mics, but I think soon, you will see 797 phases out building for anyone else other than Studio Projects. It’s all a matter of time.
In a few months, a new line of Studio Projects microphones will come to the market to compete against all the models made by Fengli. Of course this is my claim, but we will be extremely low cost, but much better quality. You will be able to get a mic under $100.00 that will knock your socks off. It will be called the "B" Series and will ship before the end of this year.
As for the T3, we voice ours differently than the ADK A-51TT, we use a different capsule, body and headstock, and otherwise they are the same with the exception of the T3 being almost half the price.
As for the C3 and C1, it was planned for these mics to be good, but they turned out way better than we expected. I would love to say this was by design so I could brag, but everything fell into place with them, and they ended up as "Freaks Of Nature", but that's a good thing.
I hope you can understand my not wanting to go into too much detail on them, but 797 will no longer sell to anyone anymore with the exception of who they do business with now. As they phase out old relationships, all sales inquiries will be sent to me.
It is a new direction for 797 Audio and together, we have many things planned that I can't go into, but it is all great stuff. The benefit will be the reason I started this in the first place, which is to give the end user product that performs as good as the top guns for a fair, but low price. Studio Projects is not just a company with no audio background that decided to get into the mic business for profit like some others have. I have been doing this for over 30 years.
I hope that answers some of your questions.
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
alanhyatt said:
Hello Alan! Will these mics be under the category of condenser type or dynamic!!?? Will they have hi SPL's and what would be their average Freq Response!!??
If condenser, @ $100, I would be EXTREMELY interested in knowing the specs and possibly purchasing several of these mics!
You have piqued my curiosity!! Thankyou
Mr.Q
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Dot
New member
email to 797 Audio
Well, folks, here's a first-hand attempt to contact 797 and inquire about buying direct. It seems that all roads now lead to Alan. : )
Status: U
From: "797Mic" <snsaudio@public3.bta.net.cn>
To: "Dan Richards" <dan@dr.com>
Cc: <alan@pmiaudio.com>
Subject: Re: Mics
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:12:33 +0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
no, Thanks.
please contact with .
Alan Hyatt: alan@pmiaudio.com
Studio Projects
23773 Madison Street
Torrance, CA 90505
310-373-9129 fax: 310-373-4714
toll free: 877-563-6335 www.studioprojectsusa.com
e-mail: info@studioprojectsusa.com
Jessica.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Richards" <dan@dr.com>
To: <snsaudio@public3.bta.net.cn>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Mics
> Hello,
>
> I have several mics made by 797 Audio.
>
> I live in the US in New York. Can I buy 797 mics direct from you?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dan Richards
Well, folks, here's a first-hand attempt to contact 797 and inquire about buying direct. It seems that all roads now lead to Alan. : )
Status: U
From: "797Mic" <snsaudio@public3.bta.net.cn>
To: "Dan Richards" <dan@dr.com>
Cc: <alan@pmiaudio.com>
Subject: Re: Mics
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:12:33 +0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Priority: 3
no, Thanks.
please contact with .
Alan Hyatt: alan@pmiaudio.com
Studio Projects
23773 Madison Street
Torrance, CA 90505
310-373-9129 fax: 310-373-4714
toll free: 877-563-6335 www.studioprojectsusa.com
e-mail: info@studioprojectsusa.com
Jessica.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Richards" <dan@dr.com>
To: <snsaudio@public3.bta.net.cn>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Mics
> Hello,
>
> I have several mics made by 797 Audio.
>
> I live in the US in New York. Can I buy 797 mics direct from you?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Dan Richards
