cd track continuation ?

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This is kinda hard to explain in words, so bear with me...

My band going to record a full length over the holidays and i'm going to be recording everything in nuendo and "mastering" and recording the cd in wavelab. My question is:

We're looking to connect a few tracks with a noise or a fade out, but not have an obvious pause. Let's say for example: the last chord of a song has a organ chord holding, i want the track number to change to the next one without interupting the chord ring-out. I know you can place markers in wavelab and so when you burn the cd it'll change from one track to another, but that would mean i would have to record the tracks back-to-back in Nuendo to have a continuous mixdown come cd time. Is there anyway i can record each track different in nuendo and still have the tracks flow from one to the other smoothly?

Thanks,
Brandon
 
You can use the Montage view in Wavelab and have two tracks playing at the same time if you like.

Another way is just to but up the two tracks in the same windown and cause them to crossfade the way you want, then insert a track start/end/whatever marker at where you want a new track to start in the wave file.

Hope this helps.

Use Wavelabs manual to learn how to effectively use Montage view.

Good luck.

Ed
 
i thought about the crossfading thing, but that would almost fade in the track and fade out the earlier one. I don't want the beginnings to be different sounds or anything. I want it to be a constant note that holds throughout the end of the first track, and through the beginning of the second. I haven't exactly looked into montage. I think you're right though, it probably has alot of stuff i don't know about. Thanks for the ideas.

Brandon
 
I'm not familiar with Wavelab, but the way I've done this is to lay out all the individual mastered songs without fades in my multitracking software (I'm sure Nuendo would work). Then I play with the fades and overlaps or whatever and get the whole album sounding just how I want it from beginning to end with volume levels, etc. Then I mix the whole thing down to one stereo track and put markers in where i want to have the tracks start. Then by having the editing tool snap to the markers, I select each track individually and render it as a new .wav file. You can then burn the tracks to CD using Nero or whatever with the pause between tracks set to 0. The transitions play smoothly from one song to the next as if there isn't even a marker there. Hope this helps.
 
the wavelab montage window is designed to do exactly what you want to do.

xoox
 
frist44 said:
i thought about the crossfading thing, but that would almost fade in the track and fade out the earlier one. I don't want the beginnings to be different sounds or anything. I want it to be a constant note that holds throughout the end of the first track, and through the beginning of the second. I haven't exactly looked into montage. I think you're right though, it probably has alot of stuff i don't know about. Thanks for the ideas.

Brandon
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You WILL be actually cross fading the tracks to have them run together smoothly. Having one track end and at the next "sample" having another track start would more than likely create an audible "click" in the sound, which would not be desireable at all eh? Have the sound cross fade by about 10ms would create a nice blend.

The reason I suggest Wavelab too is that is has it's own CD burning program that actually accepts tracks start markers. While authoring the CD, you will have to have the start of the second song be about 200ms or so before it actually starts so that if somebody listening to the CD wants to "scroll" to the next song that they get the very beginning of it. On most CD players, you do no hear the first 200ms or so of a song if you scrolled to it. Something about buffering time or something. I am actually not sure exactly WHY that happens, but I always now mover my track start markers back at least 200ms before the start of an audio in the track to assure that this doesn't happen.

Good luck.

Ed
 
Ed,

I read up on montage and have a firm grasp on how to use it and the functions it's capable of. The audio montage is the exact utility i was in search of to create this crossfading. In regards to your comments on the 200 ms track start, i noticed that if you let wavelab create the markers, it puts pre-roll before and after tracks. It's not 200 ms, but it's 60 cd frames or something like that. I wonder if that's the reason for those settings. any ideas?

Brandon
 
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