Can't monitor while recording and other issues

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Signal chain:

Mic->M-Audio DMP3 preamp->M-Audio Delta44 soundcard->PC using Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.

Since the Delta 44 isn't Midi capable I am still using my old soundcard as well.


Problems:

The only way I am able to monitor and record is to send the mic signal that I input to the Delta 44 breakout box to the output of the Delta 44 breakout box using the control panel. The problem with this is that while it monitors what is being recorded I can't monitor what I have already recorded. So if I've recorded a guitar track and now want to record a vocal track I have to pick between monitoring the guitar track while recording the vocal track, or monitoring the vocal track while recording the vocal track. I would like to monitor them both. Furthermore, I’m only able to hear the vocal track in the left ear of the headphone while recording, which is probably due to the mono input and outputs on the Delta 44, since it’s just copying on mono input to a mono output outside of the software program, but it is still a major annoyance that I would like to get rid of.

Also, because the Delta 44 isn’t midi capable, all midi sounds get sent to the old sound card. This sucks. I need to keep the old sound card for this very reason. However, I’m under the impression that there is a way to handle this with a software synthesizer, where it cnverts the midi signal to a .wav form. I have no idea how to do this.

What I want:

Simple really. I want to be able to record while monitoring what is being recorded as well as what has already been recorded. It seems to me that it should be really easy to do this in Pro Audio 9 but I can’t figure out how and the help menu isn’t living up to its name. When I arm a track for recording I can see the mic signal on the channel meter, but can’t figure out what to do to hear it.

I would also like to be able to mix in Midi sounds. Because the Delta 44 doesn’t support midi I need a way to turn the midi signal into a waveform before it gets sent to the Delta 44 soundcard. This isn’t a huge issue because I have a Boss Dr-5 rhythm machine that I bought years ago for my guitar, and I can probably just use it as my source of other sounds.

Please Help! At this point I’m extremely frustrated and about ready to chuck the whole computer recording plan and get a stand alone DAW.
 
On the Delta control panel's "patchbay/router" page, assign H/W out 1/2 to the monitor mixer.

In PA9 assign the main stereo outputs to "wave out 1/2".

Now you will be able to balance the audio output from PA9, (wave out 1/2), with whichever hardware (H/W) input you are using, to create an acceptable monitor mix by using the monitor mixer in the Delta control panel.

This has very little to do with PA9, it's all handled in the Delta's control panel, the monitor mixer has solo, and mute switches, as well as pan controls, all of these will need to be set up properly too.
 
Strryder got the point for monitoring/recording problem.

For MIDI problem, what is your "old soundcard"? I think CWPA9 has limited softsynth capability. All I remember, I had to use SBLive! (soundfonts) to convert my MIDI tracks to audio internaly back then. If you realy want big softsynth improvement, then maybe it's the right time to upgrade to either Sonar or homestudio. They can use DXi so you can have decent softsynth at your fingertip. To use your Boss DR-5 you need to connect it to your PC. If your soundcard has MIDI/joystick port, then you only need Joystick / MIDI cable for ~$15 at radioshack.

;)
Jaymz
 
My old soundcard is an aureal AU8810. You can see one at

http://www.cputopia.com/cputopia-aureal-au8810-2-channel-pci-sound-card.html

I'm at work now so I can't say for sure, but I believe I already had everything set as Strryder recommended. I'll check for sure when I get home. I can monitor while recording,but only previously recorded tracks, not the one that is currently being recorded.

The only way I can hear what I am recording is to assign H/W Out 1/2 to H/W In 1/2 in the patchbay router, which then overshadows the WaveOut 1/2 assignment in PA9.

Strryder, what you say makes total sense, and it should work this way. I just think mine isn't for some reason. Like I said, I'll double check when I get home.
 
Holy Crap! I'm a total Dumb Ass!

So guess what my problem was? In the patchbay router for the Delta 44 I had the slider for H/W In 1/2 all the way down.

I'm going to go off in a corner and cry now.

There's too damn many buttons and crap and now I feel like an idiot and the worst part is I'm sure this isn't the last time it's going to happen.
 
cracked lid said:
Holy Crap! I'm a total Dumb Ass!

So guess what my problem was? In the patchbay router for the Delta 44 I had the slider for H/W In 1/2 all the way down.

I'm going to go off in a corner and cry now.

There's too damn many buttons and crap and now I feel like an idiot and the worst part is I'm sure this isn't the last time it's going to happen.

LOL!!! :D

It'll get easier as you use the system more and more!

I'll take the routing issues inside the computer any day, at least compared to having a 16 track reel to reel, a 24x8 console and a rack that had 10 channels of compression, 4 outboard mic pre's, 2 patchbays, and 3 multi-effects units, plus a stand-alone CD burner, and a stereo cassette deck... I used to have so many cables, cords, and connectors that I had to make wiring diagrams to remember all of the routing... nothin' like needing about a grand's worth of cabling alone, not including mic cable/snake and guitar cables!
 
cracked lid said:
Holy Crap! I'm a total Dumb Ass!

So guess what my problem was? In the patchbay router for the Delta 44 I had the slider for H/W In 1/2 all the way down.

I'm going to go off in a corner and cry now.

There's too damn many buttons and crap and now I feel like an idiot and the worst part is I'm sure this isn't the last time it's going to happen.

Shit! I just had to reply to this thread :D Are we competing or something? ..LOL that was a good one though :cool:
 
Is it absolutely necessary to invoke old threads... :rolleyes:
 
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