Can I call this a pro recording studio??

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I've seen paint splots on a big white piece of paper . . .

Barbie Dolls that have been mangled, colored and distorted beyond recognition . . .

A film that consisted of nothing but guitar being dragged by a rope from the back of a pickup . . .

Another one that consisted of nothing but a camera filming what is outside a building . . .

A bagpipe shaped like the head of Richard Nixon . . . (Just kidding about that one)

And all of this, my friends, was considered professional art. :D
 
i have a question. if none of you guys are professionals, should we even consider your opinions about what constitutes being a professional? i mean, if you aren't a professional with a real professional opinion, why should we give a crap what you have to say about professional recording?
 
RecTechMin said:
i have a question. if none of you guys are professionals...

Does that imply that you think professionals aren't allowed to hang here, or that you're a music critic and you've been listening to my stuff? :(
 
RecTechMin said:
i have a question. if none of you guys are professionals, should we even consider your opinions about what constitutes being a professional? i mean, if you aren't a professional with a real professional opinion, why should we give a crap what you have to say about professional recording?

i'm a professional asshole. You guys are just amateurs.
 
RecTechMin said:
i have a question. if none of you guys are professionals, should we even consider your opinions about what constitutes being a professional? i mean, if you aren't a professional with a real professional opinion, why should we give a crap what you have to say about professional recording?
There ARE a number of professionals here, so what the fuck are you talking about?
 
Im a pro in that I turn a profit... but my gear is merely... semi-pro.

xoxo
 
RecTechMin said:
if you aren't a professional with a real professional opinion, why should we give a crap what you have to say about professional recording?

Well, I know a lot of people who aren't professional politicians, yet they seem to have a lot of opinions on politics. I know a lot of people who have opinions about music who aren't professional musicians, either.

I like Grape Fruit. It is my opinion that it is the best fruit there is. Am I not entitled to that opinion unless I'm a professional fruit grower?

And just because I am a professional at something, you still have a right not to give a crap about what I might say about it.

So in answer to your question: You don't have to give a crap about anything if you don't want. But I wouldn't base it solely on whether or not someone is a professional. :D
 
RecTechMin said:
let me clarify. i was being facetious.
-teddy
Aahh.... I see....

Allow me to introduce --> THE SMILEY <--- here he is now... ;)


Some people hate them but they usually help clarify the way to interpret a thread....!

:D :D
 
RecTechMin said:
let me clarify. i was being facetious.
-teddy

Well I still like Grapefruit. And I'm not being facetious about that, either.
 
Teacher said:


they don't use it xclusively they usually track it through an analog mixer like a Neve or SSLwith a 3rd party front end...and some will even mix through them to to use the outboard gear.. using protools as a tape machine and editor only..thats how MOST of the recordings are done...

Which still means that you don't have to use a tape machine to track to make it sound good, so the point is still valid, and the Bob Katz quote above is still wrong. (With reservetions for whether Bob Katz actually said it :) )

When tracking an analog signal you always need to have an analog stage, even if the tracking is digital. If this is a small preamp or a complete Neve mixer doesn't really make any difference (except that the Neve probably sounds clearer and more "digital" than your average cheap Preamp :) ). So tracking through a mixer doesn't make the recording more "analog".

When it comes to mixing I have heard that Protools doesn't do that well. If that is true, I can see why you would use an outboard mixer for that. But that is then because of a flaw in Protools, and not because of a general flaw with digital sound.
 
So basically, the conclusion to this whole thread seems to be: Can I call this a Pro Studio? 'yes, but don't be surprised if people chuckle about it.':D
 
After a long fight (with words and ideeas,of course) between the readers of this question ,I believe that if you want to record and mix you can do it in any way. Digital,analog,Hybrid(analog-digital,digital-analog)...etc..etc..etc..The only problem that I want to solve was:which was the minimum gear to obtain a good quality?Thanks a lot, guys.
 
>Of course you can......!

(but calling it a professional studio, doesn't make it a professional studio!)

I think Camn is closer to the mark. If you can get someone to pay you to record them with that set-up (as low-end as it is) then:

It's a pro studio.

>which was the minimum gear to obtain a good quality?

You've gotta stop throwing highly subjective terms into a question that's meant to elicit specific (gear recommendation)
answers. You'll only end up chasing your tail.

Both "minimum" and "good" qualify in that department.
 
Ever hear of Beck? He only needed a four-track and a couple cables.. two turntables and a microphone. Its not the gear that makes your mixes good.... it's your skillz, dawg.

xoxo
 
Yes, we all know of examples like Beck recording with minimal equipment, but that equipment GAVE him that specific lo-fi sound.

Certain styles can get away with lo-end equipment. How many dirty samples do you hear in hip-hop? They're all over the place. It's acceptable - even desirable.

The question here is different, though. Many people here want to know if they can record Korn, the London Symphony Orchestra, and Diana Krall with a styrofoam cup, some string, a Palm Pilot (with special A/D adapter to make it "digital"), and a wax cylinder.

And the answer to that, unfortunately, is an emphatic, "no."

That doesn't mean that good music can't be recording with the kind of setup that's been talked about in the above posts. It just means that it won't work for ALL STYLES of music.

Ken Rutkowski
www.OuterLimitRecordingStudio.com
 
Kendog said:
The question here is different, though. Many people here want to know if they can record Korn, the London Symphony Orchestra, and Diana Krall with a styrofoam cup, some string, a Palm Pilot (with special A/D adapter to make it "digital"), and a wax cylinder.

And the answer to that, unfortunately, is an emphatic, "no."
That is THE BEST way I've ever heard that phrased!

2-thumbs up, Ken!!

:)
 
Kendog said:
The question here is different, though. Many people here want to know if they can record Korn, the London Symphony Orchestra, and Diana Krall with a styrofoam cup, some string, a Palm Pilot (with special A/D adapter to make it "digital"), and a wax cylinder.

And the answer to that, unfortunately, is an emphatic, "no."[/url]

Yea, I agree. You'd need a much better preamp for something like that. Something good like a Behringer or Bellari. The output from the foam cup is lower, I believe, than a ribbon mic. Yup. Definitely the Audio Buddy.
 
chessrock said:


Yea, I agree. You'd need a much better preamp for something like that. Something good like a Behringer or Bellari. The output from the foam cup is lower, I believe, than a ribbon mic. Yup. Definitely the Audio Buddy.

Naw, man! Something with a toob in it! To warm up that harsh styrofoam sound!
 
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