CAD E200

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Ears: I agree.

Let's see, many recorders don't go as low as 20 Hz and human hearing (most of us) goes down to 50 Hz, if I'm right, so why are there mics that pickup down to 20 and even 10 Hz? Could someone explain that? Thanx.
 
Digital goes to 20Hz/
Also those frequencies are feel frequencies. Like dance and even bass in the low register. When we cut off at 40HZ let's say, it's like chopping the overflow. It tends to sound unnatural.We can't hear passed 16 or 18K either but 96K machines are out. Less distortion. If you remember the short lived DCC cassette. It may still be out I don't know. Even the Mini disk I think, uses a scheme where they cut off all frequencies above hearing and below hearing to reserve storage capacity.I heard those units (the DCC) and noticed a difference in quality. You can't put your finger on it, it just sounds trapped the music. Like an mp3 file versus real CD.

I think I'm on target here. Anyone else.
 
I hear ya, Ears (no pun intended). So basically, when people dance and when subwoofers put out 30 Hz, those vibrations and air that we feel with our guts are the ones below hearing. That makes sense. BUT: what if I use a cassette 8-track (Tascam 488 mkII). I doubt it goes as low and as high as 20 Hz/Mhz. Am I still better off with a 20-20 mic? Cuz the E-200 is tempting, but it's only 20-18. Whereas if I save up for the E-350, I'll get 10-20, right?
I do have a friend's NT1 for now and it is 20-20, just doesn't have the multiple patterns, so I can wait and save up, if it makes sense.
 
Hi Gear Junky, I am actually kinda a purist about overtones such as Ears mentions; in fact I'm one of those people who bitched and moaned a lot in the 80's about the sampling rate for CD's being too low. :)

That said, I may be able to detect the difference in frequency range on my soon to be DAW, I doubt very much that I could detect it on my current 1/2" analog 8 track machine, and I SERIOUSLY doubt you would be able to hear the difference on a cassette.

Also, even if you can hear the difference, the question is still whether the difference sounds good or bad. I plan on using the E-200 mainly for vocals and acoustic guitar. And frankly I have never liked the way my voice sounds on a really expensive mic like the Neumann U-87. Too many high frequencies. Sure you can EQ them out, but I'm kinda old school - I say it's better to use the right mic for the job than EQ. For example lots of people (me included, although not in every situation of course) love the way old ribbon mics sound on vocals, and I guarantee those will not pick up 20K. :) So, I personally may end up really liking the E-200 for what I actually want to use it for. I'm going to do a head to head comparison in my real studio with the AT4050, so we'll see.

We tend to think that having a "low-budget" home studio is going to put us at a disadvantage compared to higher end studios, but we overlook the advantages: we can choose our gear based on *exactly* the sounds we like, as opposed to a commercial studio which has to be able to handle any situation that comes along. And a lot of times the less expensive gear may "color" the sound in a way that may offend purists, but may actually sound better to us. In other words you may not want to record classical violins with an E-200, but for rock vocals it might actually sound more pleasing to you than a mic that's good enough to record violins. And save you an awful lot of money in the process.

--Lee
 
That was deep, Flier...

Thanks, man, you make a lot of sense. Who cares about pro studios? Most of my recordings are going to be listened to in car stereos and boomboxes, anyway and certainly it's unlikely that any "purists" will hear 'em. That means I can have a nice "swiss army knife" mic (the E-200) for $400. Hey, I bet I'll get an even better deal at SamAsh! So what's the cheapest place to buy them on the web?
 
What It Comes Down To

frequency response

How does the frequency respose of EVERY piece of equipment interact with eachother.

And there are SO MANY factors which determine that.

Then of course there's A LOT more the results have to do with.
 
The Cad E200 won't make or break the difference in all those recording mediums anyway. However, I cna definitely tell the difference in the formats when I hear them. Analog isn't such a bad thing either. In 18 yrs,I went stereo cassette, to stereo reel to reel, to 4track cassette, to eight track 1/2 inch RtoR, to VS880, to VS1680. Everyone sounded different. That's OK. Just my 2 cents.
It is a great mic. I'll say that. Maybe if I get a chance to make an mp3 sample.
 
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