burning speed

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what speed is everyone burning there final cd's at, and why?
(ie. 8x 16x 32x ..ect.)
 
4x seems to work fine for me when I'm burning a "master". Burning off quick reference copies, rough mixes and such for the band, I'll pretty much stick to 12x or below, I just haven't been able to get audio discs to play worth a crap burning any faster than that.
 
Ronan said:
2x if is a disc that matters

2x is probably not the best speed for your drive and media combination.


As far as what is the BEST burning speed depends on your drive and media (cdr type) combination. Generally speaking, nowadays with high speed drives you will actually get more disc errors by burning at, say 1x or 2x, then you will with 4x and 8x.

With high speed cd burners and high speed cdr, keep your speeds in the 4x-12x ballpark (never over 20x) and you'll be fine.
 
I have a Yamaha drive with audio mastering mode, and Plextor, and I recall both drives suggest (or require, in the Yammy case) 4x for audio mastering.
 
aren't you aware that you're supposed to burn at 1x...

and only on black cdr's and only specific kinds of black cdr's at that...

and don't touch the mouse while you're burning because that makes the cymbals sound tinny...

:D

but seriously, i usually burn at about 8x...no problems yet...
 
The "industry buzz" is 4X. My own experiments concluded the same using multiple drives and multiple popular media.

The best / lowest BLER from the experiment?

Tayio Yuden discs on a Plextor Premium drive at 4X.
 
Tayio Yuden discs on a Plextor Premium drive at 4X.

Yup. Then I coat the edges with green housepaint (I had a special marker, but I mislaid it)...


That's a J-O-A-K. The Plextor P won't record at less than 4X. I always error-test like Mr MassiveMaster taught me to, and find that, with the right media, the error rate is VERY low. And I hate to tell ya, but a friend brought by some black CDRs he wanted me to burn for him and the error rate is 4-10X what it is for the good 'uns. And THAT's with the Plextor that has a black tray! Man. I can't figure this out.
 
lpdeluxe said:
Yup. Then I coat the edges with green housepaint (I had a special marker, but I mislaid it)...


That's a J-O-A-K. The Plextor P won't record at less than 4X. I always error-test like Mr MassiveMaster taught me to, and find that, with the right media, the error rate is VERY low. And I hate to tell ya, but a friend brought by some black CDRs he wanted me to burn for him and the error rate is 4-10X what it is for the good 'uns. And THAT's with the Plextor that has a black tray! Man. I can't figure this out.

It's because the black CDs are like a digital tube, their higher error rate imparts a pleasing harmonic distortion, but only if you're wearing your aluminum foil hat.

Which I ASSUME all of you are ????
 
Massive Master said:
The "industry buzz" is 4X. My own experiments concluded the same using multiple drives and multiple popular media.

The best / lowest BLER from the experiment?

Tayio Yuden discs on a Plextor Premium drive at 4X.


TY makes a great disc. I have a short-run duplication service and that's all I will use. I get a very, very low reject rate with them.
 
but only if you're wearing your aluminum foil hat.

I'm wearing it now...your comments are starting to make sense!
 
mshilarious said:
It's because the black CDs are like a digital tube, their higher error rate imparts a pleasing harmonic distortion, but only if you're wearing your aluminum foil hat.

Which I ASSUME all of you are ????
Behold the power of the Black CD Foil Hat combo...

and for the love of god don't touch the mouse while you are burning!!!
 
mshilarious said:
It's because the black CDs are like a digital tube, their higher error rate imparts a pleasing harmonic distortion, but only if you're wearing your aluminum foil hat.

Which I ASSUME all of you are ????


To get the very best sound you need to go vintage and find TIN Foil, not this new-fangled, scratchy sounding aluminum stuff.
 
you need to go vintage and find TIN Foil

That's a lot of trouble but, once you start on that quest for the perfect sound, there's no turning back.


....will it make my vocals sound just like Brittney's?
 
good god no! brittney's voice is total over compressed aluminum foil crap...and you can always here the points where they moved the mouse while they were making her cd's...i warned them...

nobody really cares about audio quality anymore...
 
Use silver side disks as i think they work on ALL (or most) CD players.
Also i heard that if you are burning CDs you should burn at real time speed (x1) as the slower you burn it the more chance of it working on all CD players.
Thats just what i heard so it might be rubbish!
Printing plants mass producing CDs (200 +) will press the CDs rather than burn them as this gives a better quality and an almost guarantee that the CDs will work on all CD players.
 
fenix said:
2x is probably not the best speed for your drive and media combination.


As far as what is the BEST burning speed depends on your drive and media (cdr type) combination. Generally speaking, nowadays with high speed drives you will actually get more disc errors by burning at, say 1x or 2x, then you will with 4x and 8x.

With high speed cd burners and high speed cdr, keep your speeds in the 4x-12x ballpark (never over 20x) and you'll be fine.

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what would bob katz do?

In regards to what Bob Katz would do see Glenn Meadows CD-R tests:

http://www.digido.com/portal/pmodule_id=11/pmdmode=fullscreen/pageadder_page_id=89/

Keep in mind that this info is a bit dated. According to a local CD rep and duplication plant that I spoke to in my area, higher speeds are becoming less of an issue. One other thing to keep in mind is to NOT use labels on your CD-Rs. This can affect the rotational balance when burning, particularly at higher speeds. Also don't use a marker on your CD-Rs as this can bleed.
 
It's getting cheaper and cheaper to buy printers that will ink-jet print on CDRs (I got an Epson R300 for $180 at Staples). That's the best solution.
 
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