Bugera?

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Anyone had any experience with them? They look and sound awesome, and seem to be really inexpensive for what they are but im a bit dubious. I think they're actually made by behringer? This doesn't actually put me off as i have a few bits of behringer kit and nothings ever given me any trouble. Just figured with the low price tag and nice sound there must be some drawbacks!
 
chamelious said:
Anyone had any experience with them? They look and sound awesome, and seem to be really inexpensive for what they are but im a bit dubious. I think they're actually made by behringer? This doesn't actually put me off as i have a few bits of behringer kit and nothings ever given me any trouble. Just figured with the low price tag and nice sound there must be some drawbacks!
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They are made by Behringer.

They're basically Peavey clones - 5150/6505, 5150 II/6505+, and XXX. In the first two cases, I just don't really see the point in making low cost knock-offs, since either head can be found used for around $500, only marginally more than the Bugeras. I guess the XXX knockoff might be a little more attractive since you don't see those used as much, but I've never cared for that amp - WAY over-saturated, and active EQ bugs me.

The Peaveys will be more reliable, so for the extra hundred or two you'll spend I'd just go with the proven brand on the used market. That's just me though...
 
The peaveys have a terrible clean channel, and thats something i need. The bugera's clean channel sounds really nice from what i've heard and is one of the main praises ive seen it get, a good distortion AND clean channel.
 
But i know what you're saying. If money were no object i'd probabloy go for a 6505+ head. But they're at least twice as expensive as the Bugera's.
 
chamelious said:
But i know what you're saying. If money were no object i'd probabloy go for a 6505+ head. But they're at least twice as expensive as the Bugera's.
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Not if you go used. A quick Google search turned up a bunch of 6505+'s in the $700-800 range, vs. $550 for a Bugera.
 
Ditto on Carvin. Very underated amps.

With regard to the Bugera. They do sound very good. And the cleans are much better then you will find on the Peavey.

HOWEVER, the build quality is very poor.

Next time you are near one, go up to it and just wiggle one of the knobs. Every one I have ever checked out the wiggle and wobble like mad.

It's almost like the hardware that holds it in place is rubber or something.
 
sarge117 said:
Next time you are near one, go up to it and just wiggle one of the knobs. Every one I have ever checked out the wiggle and wobble like mad.

It's almost like the hardware that holds it in place is rubber or something.
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That's because they use cheap-o pots with plastic shafts.
 
The difference in price is much more significant in the UK. Will look into Carvins, believe Vai uses them.

Edit: After a quick look in the usual places, looks like Carvin are very very difficult to get hold of in the UK.
 
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Cheers dude. Less than 400 pounds in the UK, seems ok, will have to listen to some sound samples tonight and see if its up my alley.
 
chamelious said:
Cheers dude. Less than 400 pounds in the UK, seems ok, will have to listen to some sound samples tonight and see if its up my alley.
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If you're thinking of the Legacy, and if you were previously considering a 5150 clone, I'm going to suggest passing. The Legacy is a pretty low gain beast, with a thick, uber-middy smooth distortion sound. IT's a good lead amp if you dig Vai's tone, but it's not REALLY meant to be a metal rhythm amp.

The V3 might get you closer - it's sort of Carvin's take on the Mesa school of tone, but with active EQ. Early ones had some reliability issues (including, amongst other issues, catching on fire), but I believe they've been sorted out. I'm not big on active EQ myself, but if it works for you then it'll certainly get you a lot closer to that modern metal sound.
 
DrewPeterson7 said:
If you're thinking of the Legacy, and if you were previously considering a 5150 clone, I'm going to suggest passing. The Legacy is a pretty low gain beast, with a thick, uber-middy smooth distortion sound. IT's a good lead amp if you dig Vai's tone, but it's not REALLY meant to be a metal rhythm amp.
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Someone has been lying to you. I have a Legacy and I can guarantee it's not a low gain amp. It works quite well for any style of music not just Vai type wanking. Another fellow forumite Bryan K also uses a Legacy which you can hear on his soundclick page. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=984132&songID=7992411
 
ocnor said:
Someone has been lying to you. I have a Legacy and I can guarantee it's not a low gain amp. It works quite well for any style of music not just Vai type wanking. Another fellow forumite Bryan K also uses a Legacy which you can hear on his soundclick page. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=984132&songID=7992411
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Can't get onto soundclick from work - for now, let's merely say that a large part of my perception is probably colored by the fact that 99% of the guys I've heard playing Legacies are TRYING to make them sound like Vai. ;)

However, all the same it's worth noting that a Peavey 5150 is a seriously high gain amp voiced for metal, and that I HAVE heard a lot of guys say that a Legacy won't really do metal type levels of saturation unless you hit it with a boost. If he's after the 5150 sound, I still suspect a Legacy would be a worse bet than a V3.
 
Hmm. Its true im after the 5150 sound i guess, except i'd heard that its clean channel is a bit wank. Whats your guys take on that?
 
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