BPM Calculator

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Hi to all,

Is there any Beat Per Minute calculator in Sonar 2.2 ? Or could someone propose me a good one ?

I have a vocal track which i don't know the BPM and i have to add musical track to it ... any tutorial ?

Thank to all

Musart
 
Sonar has a tool called Extract Timing which I believe is supposed to do something along these lines. However, I've never been able to get it to work for me.

If you manage to get it to work, c'mon back and tell us how. :)
 
dachay2tnr said:
Sonar has a tool called Extract Timing which I believe is supposed to do something along these lines. However, I've never been able to get it to work for me.

If you manage to get it to work, c'mon back and tell us how. :)
Great i'll try that tonight

Thanks
 
Middleman said:
Don't believe that is what he is looking for, MM. That program converts a "known" BPM into milliseconds for specific note intervals. What he is looking for is a way to extract the BPM from a piece of music.

I guess if you could time the interval between quarter notes, you might be able to use the AnalogX converter in reverse. Dunno?
 
OK ...

Now, what i tried Yesterday :

I forgot about the BPM calculator, it's too hard to find the right BPM because the vocal track tempo is not evenly on time ... anyway.

What i did is:

I recorded a "click" wav track with my guitar (palm muted string) following the vocal track singer tempo (four beat per measure).

Then, i did a "Extract Timing" on that "click track" and paste the result on a midi track. What i got is all the midi notes which are exactly at the same time as the wav track "clicks". I choose "B2" note for B.Drum when i pasted it.

What i have to do now, is make a midi instruments part and perform a DNA groove clip to quantize with the extract timing i did.

Sa that an example of Extract Timing use.

Thanks Dachay2tnr



I will try something else tonight, i will to the inverse and play with sound clip "stretch and fit time" to make the vocal clip to be in time with and assigned BPM, i let you know.
 
I forgot to mention an important thing. For those who wondering why i'm doing it this way instead of recording live midi tracks....

.... well i don't have a midi keyboard and i am a guitar player ... so i put all the notes on the piano roll when i compose midi parts....

Musart
 
Hey : 50 posts !!!

I'm not a newbie anymore !!!

... Joking !
:)
 
dachay2tnr said:
Don't believe that is what he is looking for, MM. That program converts a "known" BPM into milliseconds for specific note intervals. What he is looking for is a way to extract the BPM from a piece of music.

I guess if you could time the interval between quarter notes, you might be able to use the AnalogX converter in reverse. Dunno?
You're right, that's not what i needed but i think it was the wrong place on the website.<

Go to main menu - software - audio and you will get a bunch of nice utilities which include a BPM Calculator :)
 
Musart said:
You're right, that's not what i needed but i think it was the wrong place on the website.<

Go to main menu - software - audio and you will get a bunch of nice utilities which include a BPM Calculator :)
Are you speaking about the Tap Tempo utility? If so, Sonar has one of those built into it.

Click the icon next to the BPM display on the tempo toolbar (looks like an inverted V). You will see a box labeled Click Here To Tap Tempo. Clicking in time to the music will give you the BPM. However, unless you are very consistent, the display will vary quite a bit - so it really gives you a bpm "range."
 
Musart said:
OK ...

Now, what i tried Yesterday :

I forgot about the BPM calculator, it's too hard to find the right BPM because the vocal track tempo is not evenly on time ... anyway.

If the original is not recorded to a click, it will be VERY hard to match a MIDI program to it. Basically, you will have to put in a lot of little tempo adjustments whenever it starts to get too far off. Or you could lay down the part you want, with MIDI, export it to a wav file, and then move every little hit around to match the singer. Or better yet, move the singer's every little hit around to match the click. Anyway, if you can possibly retrack the vocals to a click, do that instead.
 
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