Blew a Monitor somehow.... what now?

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Just noticed that my Roland DS-50 on the left sounds very different than my Roland DS-50 on the right.

So I panned some audio just to the left, and - I am 99% sure this monitor is blown.

I don't even know how this could have happened.

It sounds dirty, and very mid-range like. Their appears to be no high end at all.

Would that be the Tweeter is blown?

Is there anywhere online I can get replacement parts for this?

(I searched Ebay and google, but found nothing).

I bought them used from a guy, so I don't even know what store to take these to for repair.
 
you'll have to do a search for roland repair centers near you... two things to keep in mind... while it most probably is just the tweeter it could be one of the amps... should br two amps in each cab... also you may want to consider replacing both tweeters the idea being that the other may not be too far behind and you want them to be the same anyhow...
 
Roland equipment F***'s me again.

I'm done - No more Roland ever.

I have a better history with Behringer.
 
Hey, shit happens. I've blown more tweeters than I'd care to recount. If you can find them, get two and replace both and keep the old good one as a spare.
 
Roland gear has been good to me for 10 years as well as any other Roland owner I know. A good friend of mine has had his DS-50's for more than 3 years now and has never had the slightest problem - and this is amazing because he pushes the hell out of his.

Don't generalize because of a bad experience.
 
If it were based on 1 bad experience, that would indeed be generalizing.

However, I've given the good people at Roland over $4000 over the last 3 years,
and have not been happy with several of the products.

The VS-2000 DAW, with it's incredibly outrageous prices for upgrade options, only had a product life of around 3 years. By the time I bought one, it was discontinued. People we're spending $600 for the VS8F-3 chip, just so they could add the third party plug-ins. Some of the third party-plugin's never did come out, and some of them we're incredibly buggy. Now of course, with the product life cycle at an end, no new plug-ins are being writtien. Sucks for anyone who paid $2200 for the machine, $600 for the VS8F-3, plus another $300 for the damn mouse / vga module. (Which was another money grab).

My Boss BR-1600 (although I loved the machine) blew it's hard-drive 2 weeks after I got it home. NO - Roland does not make harddrives. But Maxtor does - and their slim line harddrive's in the 30GB and 40GB manufactured between 2002 - 2003 have all overheated and died, and Roland used those drives. I have to guess they did so, because those drives we're always $10 less than their competitiors. (I am a tech - and have stacks of those drives dead on my desk, piled 15 high, with no reasonable RMA possible.).

I've got the Roland TD-6 electronic drum kit. Okay for live, but the for recording, the horrible sounding samples are unusable. $1900, down the drain, just like that.

At any rate, I am entitled to my own opinion based on my own experiences.

I baby these monitors constantly, and even have an "emergency" shut off switch to the power next to me, in the form of a rack mount power bar, just to make sure nothing overloads them. And randomly, after no particular incident, the tweeter is blown.

I've read the reviews on the DS-50's. (Much too late of course). Alot of the reviews are weak. I could have had KRK or Truth monitors for a little more than the price I paid used for these. (And of course, these are also discontinued)

I will simply never buy Roland again.
 
Eh...I guess each person's experience with 'em is different.

I've owned the XP-50, XV-5050 Rack, VS-880, VS-2400, & the Fantom X. Only one of those units has an operational problem that wasn't caused by me - one of the motors in the 2400's faders has gone nuts and jumps all over the place.

The other units? Most still run...the others I fucked up being careless (one happened to be one of my favorite pieces of gear).

Either I have a string of good fortune going or you having a string of very bad fortune...:D

However, the thing with the TD-6 can NOT be blamed on Roland. If you bought a product that didn't sound good to you...well that's on you. That's why you do research before you buy.
 
Yeah, true enough.

I just thought for sure, if I was spending that big of money, the drums would sounds good when recorded.

Their is some saving grace there - in that I can use the drums just to drum on, and get the sounds out of BFD, DFH, Addictive Drummer etc. etc. etc.

But - I would have bought a $600 kit, had I known.

I *hated* the VS-2000. But, you can only spend so much time trying it in the store. I should have rented it for a week.

Well, tommorow I'll take this monitor in to the local music store, and find out what a tweeter costs.

I'm a little embarrassed to say, it may have been like this for some time. I only noticed becasue I accidentally panned something all the way to the one side, and was like "HEY, why is that so quiet and disorted ????".
 
If it were based on 1 bad experience, that would indeed be generalizing.
However, I've given the good people at Roland over $4000 over the last 3 years,
and have not been happy with several of the products.




(I am a tech - and have stacks of those drives dead on my desk, piled 15 high, with no reasonable RMA possible.).







At any rate, I am entitled to my own opinion based on my own experiences.
I will simply never buy Roland again.


wow... i felt sorry for ya at first.... and of course you are entitled to your opinion and should vote with your money as you see fit.... but i have to admit ya had me lookin for the neg rep....

you're a TECH???? and you cant source a tweeter???? and you dont know enough to research expensive equipment purchases???? and you blame roland for problems with a EBAY purchased used piece????? sorry man dont really want to rip on ya but maybe a reality check is in order?????:eek:
 
Thanks I appreciate your comments.

Go ahead and give me as much negative rep as you can - I don't really care.

I don't whack off to my green bar like some people do.

Please give me as much NEG as you can.

But listen up.....

1. I never bought this off ebay, I bought it from a friend of mine. (Where did you get Ebay from?)

2. I am a Network and Computer technician. I am very successful at it.

PC's do not have tweeter's. Why would a computer tech be able to source a Roland replacement part?

I WORK ON COMPUTERS - NOT ROLAND MUSIC EQUIPMENT. I don't even care to TRY to fix my own studio monitor - I leave that up to guys who work on STUDIO EQUIPMENT.

3. I am entitled to my own opinon on Roland equipment. I am very happy with lots of other purchases, from lots of other manufactures. (In fact - I have found excellent replacements for many items mentioned above, from other companies). If feel Roland is too expensive, and hyped up.

Thanks for the reality check Demented Chord.

You are what is wrong with this BBS.



And by the way, I didn't give you NEG, because I can't be bothered, and because I'm not 8 years old.


QUOTE :: "i have to admit ya had me lookin for the neg rep.... "


HAHAHAHAHA - so at some point when reading my post, you started to get a little emotional.....

"Gee.... this makes me sad....... I think I'll go a lookin' for the neg rep button, cause it's my DUTY to police people's opinions with the dreaded RED BAR"


Just click the little icon of the scales, and click "I disapprove". Your gonna feel like you've got a big cock aftwerwards.

(Probably your first step to moving out of your mom's basement too)














wow... i felt sorry for ya at first.... and of course you are entitled to your opinion and should vote with your money as you see fit.... but i have to admit ya had me lookin for the neg rep....

you're a TECH???? and you cant source a tweeter???? and you dont know enough to research expensive equipment purchases???? and you blame roland for problems with a EBAY purchased used piece????? sorry man dont really want to rip on ya but maybe a reality check is in order?????:eek:
 
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HAHAHAHAHA !

I checked my rep !

Demented chord did actually give me a negative rep for not having a good opinion of Roland Gear !

He posted a negative my way - way back up near the top, when I listed all the reasons I didn't like the gear.

This is going to make things complicated from here on..... because I don't know how to feel about things anymore.
Do I have to check all my opinions with Demented Chord now, or else my rep will suffer ?
 
You can neg rep again now? Shows how much I pay attention...
 
my bad on the ebay thing i did remeber they were used... just misattributed it... parts is parts... it aint that hard... and i left mom's hpuse in 1971 FWIW... and i'm not the rep whore you think... but anyhow....
 
They just brought it back - but I thought it was more to flag spammers, and to flag people are who only here to prank the bbs, or if someone was being completely unreasonable.

Demented Chords thinks it's a weapon of some kind.




You can neg rep again now? Shows how much I pay attention...
 
Maybe I'm just a little sensitive / defensive, because I'm tired of seeing people get wailed on within this bbs, all the time. Usually it's not me getting picked on, but I felt it was this time.

(homerecording.com is possibly the world's largest collection of practical studio knowledge, but yet, a good percentage of the threads are made up of useless bickering).


At any rate...... Roland is a multi-million dollar company, and therefore, they obviously know a thing or to about business, and about creating studio products.

However, my last several purchases from Roland, have been disappointing.

This tweeter blowing was really disappointing, as I don't get to much time to record, and when I do, I want everything to work excellent. (And it seemed very random)

No hard feelings to or from Demented Chord.

Also - I've got the monitor in a shop right now, and I'll post back what it costs for interest sake, to anyone else who blows a DS-50 tweeter.
 
Okay children...

Before you assume your speaker is blown, try swapping the speaker cables. If the problem switches channels, then it's not in the speaker. If it stays in the same channel, it's the speaker.

Always debug your signal chain before making expensive assumptions!
 
Okay children...

Before you assume your speaker is blown, try swapping the speaker cables. If the problem switches channels, then it's not in the speaker. If it stays in the same channel, it's the speaker.

Always debug your signal chain before making expensive assumptions!

They are active monitors, that's gonna be tricky! Matty here doesn't seem like he'd be up for unscrewing anything anyway. ;)
 
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Okay children...

Before you assume your speaker is blown, try swapping the speaker cables. If the problem switches channels, then it's not in the speaker. If it stays in the same channel, it's the speaker.

Always debug your signal chain before making expensive assumptions!



Are you kidding me?

As if I didn't already do all that.

And I DID UNSCREW THE TWEETER......... you know what I found in there ???

A TWEETER.

What was I supposed to do after that ?

Have a little NEG for the Children comment KLUDGE.

Wow.... so that's what it feels like.
 
I think we all need to calm down a bit. It's not that serious.

There was a problem with the tweeter...the tweeter is being repaired. Problem solved.

No need to attack one's intellect. Let's all sing a hippie song and smoke by the campfire.

What's that?
You were already smoking?
Well what the f*** is your problem then?!? :D
 
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