Black metal clip

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please give a listen. My audio interface is a firebox with cubase LE recording software. There are three guitar tracks. One with a vamp2, one miked with an sm57 and a vtone210 amp and copy of it. The vamp track is on the right, other two on the left. I used beatcraft to make the drum beat. I'm going for a cavernous sound. Imagine orcs from LOTR started a black metal band and recorded it in Khazad-Dum. I threw this all together very fast and admittedly not much was put into it. I just wanted to hear my song idea with a beat I came up with.

 
ericlingus said:
I threw this all together very fast and admittedly not much was put into it. I just wanted to hear my song idea with a beat I came up with.
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I like where you're trying to go with it but it sounds like it was thrown together very fast.. the ride on the left has a hard unfriendly high edge.. the guitars have it to a bit.. too much treble imop.. things get more tricky with a lot of reverb.. ease up on the treble! it's too harsh..
 
well it is black metal, lots of treble in black metal! Yeah but like I said it was thrown together fast and im sure the recording reflects that. How'd the drums sound besides the ride?
 
ericlingus said:
well it is black metal, lots of treble in black metal! Yeah but like I said it was thrown together fast and im sure the recording reflects that. How'd the drums sound besides the ride?
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there is a big difference between a good sounding black metal mix and this.. this isn't mixed right and your treble is harsh.. yes since you threw it together fast, that is what it sounds like.. the drums didn't sound great..

learn the difference between a mix with a lot of high end content and one that's bad and harsh sounding with uncomfortable high end..

the 'black metal has lot's of treble' comments won't hold up..
 
no im glad you explained yourself. I'll take that in to consideration next time. I'm very new to this. Were the drums bad? I htink they sound okay. Not great but not bad either.
 
and why are you almost hostile when you replied to my comment? Did you take offense to what I said about it supposed to sound that way? You are probably right but still..
 
ericlingus said:
and why are you almost hostile when you replied to my comment? Did you take offense to what I said about it supposed to sound that way? You are probably right but still..
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He was far from hostile my man. I happen to agree with him. Saying "it's supposed to sound that way" is kind of silly. I believe he was just calling you out on that.
 
I agree. I think it's stupid what I said. It just seems he wasn't very nice about it. And then after to say he wasted all this typing and whatever. Ah well I don't really care.
 
oops he did not say wasted but still saved. I dunno just the way he worded things I guess well anyways..
 
I dig the tune, and would also like to hear more. It sounds like you got some pretty hard compression/limiting over the drum mix (hence the kick and snare drop right out of the mix as soon as the ride comes in). Compress the kick and snare seperately (...and toms). Bring the ride down (Don't use compression on your cymbals, it sucks the life out of them). The track is in need of some symphonic elements too. A nice dark string sound and/or pipe organ will really make this song, make you want to stab the old lady next store in the eyeball with a carrot peeler. :D
 
thanks for the tip on the drums. I actually did that. But when I imported them into cubase LE, I didn't feel like treaking them again in beatcraft and have the render the sequencer and then import it again into cubase so I just added compression to the whole imported drum track in cubase le, lol. As for as symphonic elements...I don't use keyboards in metal! SYNTH IS FOR PUSSIES! hail true black metal!































actually I love symphonic black metal and have a synth part written for it. I just didn't add it yet because I was mainly looking for advice on the guitar tone and drums and also on the mix, especially the reverb part of it. I'll post another clip of this with another section added with the synth parts.
 
oh crap I forgot to add the updated clip. Same one but mixed slightly better and the reverb was applied diferently. I used the glaceverb on it. I love this reverb plug in! I used the spectral wind reverb type. This whole song I picture being in a snowstorm because my friend said the intro riff to it sounded like it would be in a snowstorm(the intro is the part im going to add to this riff).

 
oh wow I didn't realize what version I first posted int his thread. Okay this new link is the same riff but recorded again and mixed definately. It sounds much better IMO
 
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