Best Of The Chinese Crop?

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I respect Harvey's opinion and would like to hear what he thinks about Alan's comments... Hey Harvey, are Alan's comments both valid and uninflammatory? What's the facts?
 
DJL said:
Hey Harvey Gerst, are Alan's comments both valid and uninflammatory? What's the facts?
Well, let's all take a look at exactly what Alan said:

Alan Hyatt said:
According to the owner, he uses several factories.
The first sentence would appear to be a statement of fact. It sounds like Alan knows the owner and the owner told Alan he uses several factories to make the mics. I have no reason to believe Alan is being untruthful.

Alan Hyatt said:
Why I do not know.
Sounds like Alan is saying he doesn't understand why the owner is using several factories to make the mics in the product line.

Alan Hyatt said:
Using more than one presents QC issues IMHO.
Here, he clearly state that this is his opinion, and (in my opinion), it is difficult in dealing with far East companies, as I found out when I was Director of Electronics at IMC. Quality Control was the number one problem. Fortunately, we only dealt with a few companies and we had people from IMC actually living there for several months each year to check QC.

So, as far as Alan's statement about the guy using several factories to build his mics, and Alan's concerns about QC under those conditions, I find that to be valid and uninflammatory, based on my own experiences.

Alan Hyatt said:
Scroll through the products. You will see several of the same mics that Red 5 offers. Does he make changes...only his hairdresser knows for sure...
Alan is offering an opinion that the factory mics appear to be identical, but then adding that he doesn't really know for sure. I think that's pretty clear.
Finally, Alan says:

Alan Hyatt said:
If he wishes to post here, he can answer your questions better than I can.

In either case, the Red 5 mics are nice. I am biased, but then you would expect me to be...
If that is your definition of "PMI Audio slaps the competition again", then you and I have very different concepts of what "slapping" is.
 
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Oh, thanks Harvey... I now have a better idea how I should word my comments and opinons... and I withdraw my "slaps the competition" comment.
 
Flatpicker said:
I spoke to some folks at Summer NAMM last weekend from SE Electronics.
I also just remembered that the SE guys told me that they would loan any of their mics to you for a 10 or 12 day (forgot which) trial period so you can check them out before you buy. This is in the UK and the US. I didn't ask about the warranty.

Seems like there was also a place in the UK that rented several brands of mics at reasonable rates. Can’t remember who it was, though.
 
Vikki said:
http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/index.cfm
Not heard of the T Bone mics.
Vikki(uk)

Vikki,

Those T Bones are mics look like they are from Feilo. I am pretty sure about that, but there are several other assembly houses building all kinds of mics there. Feilo is the same factory we have the Joemeek mics made... Have a look at this mic... JM47 Very similar, except ours has the pad and filter for £99.00

Now we did some slight modifications to JM47 in the capsule, but that is about all as the electronics are good, and most of these kinds of mics sound pretty similar. This includes the lower cost ADK's, SE's, Marshalls, T Bones, and the Joemeek JM47.

You know about our service, as far as the others, I can not comment... :)
 
Thanks Alan
Just noticed on the Thomann audio sales site looks like some of the T Bone range is made by SE.
Did have a ring around yesterday and no one seemed to have any c4's in the uk.
Thanks
Vikki(uk)
 
Just so there's no confusion about spam:
alanhyatt said:
most of these kinds of mics {FEILO mics, not all Chinese-made ones}sound pretty similar. This includes the lower cost ADK's, SE's, Marshalls, T Bones, and the Joemeek JM47.
Just to head off a potential there ;)
 
Posted on the ADK forum and one guy said the small diameter adk's had quite a high noise floor, could be o.k for aggresive strumming but not for fingerpicking.
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Cool. There are other places as well. I ordered mine from a guy in Phoenix - Free two day air. Got my NTK from him as well. GREAT service. I just don't want to post his email on a public forum (spam). PM me if anybody wants it.

BTW, they are Brick and Mortar as well.
 
NL5 said:
BTW, they are Brick and Mortar as well.
How about posting the street address for those of us who live in the Phoenix area.
 
Vikki said:
Thanks Alan
Just noticed on the Thomann audio sales site looks like some of the T Bone range is made by SE.
Did have a ring around yesterday and no one seemed to have any c4's in the uk.
Thanks
Vikki(uk)

We have C4's in stock in Bristol....

Red Sub should have them in stock

Dig Vil can get them right away...
 
Yo Phoenecians, last I checked E.A.R. sells the SP line. Thats where I bought my C1. Great prices. A tad snobby though. They werent too happy I was buying a $200.00 mic over the AGK solidtube. I compared the 2 and it was a joke, the C1 sounded that much better.
 
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