Best isolation in "in-ear" phones?

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Hi!

Got myself a budget IEM:s (Ashton iem200) a behringer mixer (xenyx 1002B) and a e609 mic, for live monitoring.

The problem seems to be:
A when cranked in volume, there is notable hiss.
B If not cranked, the bass and rest of the band tend to bleed through so much, that they are useless.


Jouni
 
Others have use a set of ear muffs (the kind one would use during target practice) over their in ears with great results while recording.




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Yeah, those would work.:)

Unfortunately, I'm looking for live use, got some gigs lined up, foreign countries and shit... I'll look into Skull candy..
 
Jouni said:
Yeah, those would work.:)

Unfortunately, I'm looking for live use, got some gigs lined up, foreign countries and shit... I'll look into Skull candy..
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The IEM that you have are wired not wireless right?
You may want to bring that IEM with you to your local music store and try other small mixers cranked up, Listening for that hiss, to find out if the Behringer one you have is (just might be) sub standard.



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I toured with a similar set up in a live dance music band, I have a Behringer 1202, I mad a balanced XLY "Y" Splitter and took my vocal mic into the 1202 with the other split going to the PA. I also took a line in from our Sequencer, Drum machine, sound modules and keyboard on stage sub mixer. There was also a line in from my Bass via a dedicated DI box.

I ran the ear phones from the headphone out of the 1202 and it was clean and loud. After trying many different ear phones pro and cheap, I settled on Koss Spark Plugs as they were not super expensive and had a good bass response. I have 2 sets with 1 set as spare, but have never blown them up. I have trodden on a pair though.

The rest of the band had a similar set up taking the line mix and having their own vocal, the live percussion player also had my bass going to his phones (he wore head phones as they stayed on when he jumped around).

We often played with no on stage monitors at all but when there was some we just got a little vocal and some drum machine for bottom end.

I don't understand why you are getting a lot of hiss unless the gain structure is completely wrong. Also be carful not to run the in ears too loud as you will destroy you're hearing. Started too loud and found when I got used to them I turned it down, it was a lot better.
Cheers
Alan.
 
The Ashton is a wireless setup, which might be the culprit on the hiss.

If I recall I tried a set of headphones straight from the Behringer phones out, and it was dead quiet. (I know behringer isn't top-class :D)
I took the Behringer 1002B since 10-inputs are enough and it's cheap, also, battery operation is a plus, less noise, easy to setup.

I bought a e609 to throw in front of drums if the venue has NO foldback. Also a stereo-mic is on it's way so I can have some ambient sound of the band.

I just found that in the rehealsals, others were bleeding through the earpieces so bad that I had to crank the IEM a bit. Better Isolation would help there.

I'll look into the sparkplugs..
 
witzendoz said:
Also be careful not to run the in ears too loud as you will destroy you're hearing. Started too loud and found when I got used to them I turned it down, it was a lot better.
Cheers
Alan.
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This is oh so true. You can have permanent ear damage quicker with IEM than if you had foldbacks turned up to 11.




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Jouni said:
Yeah, those would work.:)

Unfortunately, I'm looking for live use, got some gigs lined up, foreign countries and shit... I'll look into Skull candy..
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I would stay away from Skullcandy. They don't give a SH#T about their customers. The other minus about them, I had Smokin' Buds, one of the cheapest(?) is that the cord's easily worn out, and the standard rubberoutsidetheplugs (if anyone understand) is very uncomfortable.

Must admit that the sound quality is great to be so cheap. And after you got some other rubberplugs it's pretty much great in-ear, they also have a remote as well.
 
I can't comment on how well they work for live monitoring, but I love my Shure IEMs. They've lasted me 6 years of regular use and only just starting to need replacement (the insulation on the cable near the 'phones, just where it bends behind the ear, has perished). The triple-flange sleeves - my preference - are comfortable, give awesome isolation and certainly won't fall out your ears with ease!
 
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