Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis are mos def 2 of my favorite producers, but neither them, nor Davonte make hip-hop (not for a living, at least). The joints Davonte did for Tupac were R&B at best with Pac spittin over them tracks, save "I Get Around," but hell he jacked all the loops/identifiable motifs for that from other hip-hop jawns himself. I won't argue about Timbaland & Neptune beats, well I guess they count(???), but best of all time?
Teddy Riley & hip-hop, I don't see it & never have.
I can give all them cats all type of credit for what they did/do, but it ain't hip-hop, even on the debate tip, except for Timbo & Neptunes.
I know a lot of what people say will be based on their age & exposure to shit, so I can't knock the next cat or kitten's opinion for the most part, but as I see it, you're on about R&B producers more than beatmakers. I've heard your jawns, so I know you know the difference. Maybe you just read the first post wrong. Or, maybe I got it twisted. You tell me.
cBas,
I'ma get that discography info up here soon. I gotta dig in the crates a little.
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