Best Double Kick Pedal

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Chain Drive

All I can say is get a chain drive!
I got an Iron cobra with the straps and I can really feel the difference! :cool:

Remember the old Tama Camco?
I wish they made a double pedal :(
 
Bdrum said:
All I can say is get a chain drive!
I got an Iron cobra with the straps and I can really feel the difference! :cool:

Remember the old Tama Camco?
I wish they made a double pedal :(


I don't know if it's still available, but Tama did make a Camco doublepedal.



Tim
 
I don't use double pedals (Only Double bass, w/ Iron Cobras), but the best ones I've played are the Tama Iron Cobra and DW9000 (No surprise huh..). My buddy uses those Camcos on his old swingstar kit, they are nice...
 
Tim Brown said:
But I do trigger the kicks, so it works for me.
Most touring pro's trigger these days, even those touring in clubs, and virtually all of the Blackmetal and Deathmetal drummers do. It's easier to get a good, consistent, kick sound every night.



Tim
I wouldn't say "most touring pros trigger these days"...maybe most metal drummers do. I understand the reasoning for triggering.....its not my thing, but if your playing that fast metal then it makes sence.
 
Tim Brown said:
They have just as much power - the problem is people who claim that didn't know how to set them up. I sheared a danmar "no bend" mallet in half using a standard Axis pedal in 1995.




Tim
I'll buy that. I've always wanted to try one just to see what they are all about.
 
I have to agree with Tim. My axis pedals cut way better than my old PDP pedals. And my old Tama pedal.
 
BroKenSticKs said:
I'll buy that. I've always wanted to try one just to see what they are all about.


They have the movable drive on them(on the A's) that change the fell of the pedals. If you have them set all the way to the bacl, they feel like a strap drive, so they are really smooth but not as fast or powerful feeling, but if you move it all the way forward, it's got tons of power.
My thinking is that most of the chaindrive players who didn't like them, probably tried them with it set all the way to the back.
The reason I say that is because I play with it all the way back (and they feel like a strap, or really like a Ludwig Speedking), and let a friend who loves the chandriven pedals (He's been a DW pedal user for over 20 years) try them, and I flipped the drive set up forward for him and he loved them.

The whole key to them being faster is the direct drive link, because it acts like one piece. I used Chaindrive pedals for years (first it was a set of DW's, the Pearl p880's, and finally Pearl P950's before switching to the Axis pedals) but prior to that I used Slingerland Tempo Kings - which was a strap drive that Slingerland no longer made. So I never quite got used to the feel of the chaindrivern pedals.

Usually, the best pedal around - is the one you are used to. It took me a little while to adjust to the Axis pedals, but as I got used to them, my kicking speed increased exponentially.


It's one of the few products that I have a hard time seeing anyone really making a better version.
Except, of course me. LOL! I've got a footpedal design in the works. Well, technically, it's already designed - I just need to come up with the money to build the prototype. I have a friend who is a machinist and he's going to help me work out the kinks, and if I can get this thing going, we're going to go into business together.
So, he'll get part of the profits, and I'll get trained in how to use the CNC machines to make the things - so that works for me. :D


Tim
 
tilinmyowngrave said:
Double pedals arent as responsive, I don't like any double pedal.

I used to feel the same way. The first double pedal I tried was from Gibralter. It was heavy and slow and always created a slight delay, making me think double pedals were aweful. Then I tried a good double pedal. I'm not a Pearl fan, but I ended up with one of there's that's light and very responsive and affordable. I may search for a better one someday, but for now I've been very happy with this one and its lasted 7 years.
 
Tim Brown said:
They have the movable drive on them(on the A's) that change the fell of the pedals. If you have them set all the way to the bacl, they feel like a strap drive, so they are really smooth but not as fast or powerful feeling, but if you move it all the way forward, it's got tons of power.
My thinking is that most of the chaindrive players who didn't like them, probably tried them with it set all the way to the back.
The reason I say that is because I play with it all the way back (and they feel like a strap, or really like a Ludwig Speedking), and let a friend who loves the chandriven pedals (He's been a DW pedal user for over 20 years) try them, and I flipped the drive set up forward for him and he loved them.

The whole key to them being faster is the direct drive link, because it acts like one piece. I used Chaindrive pedals for years (first it was a set of DW's, the Pearl p880's, and finally Pearl P950's before switching to the Axis pedals) but prior to that I used Slingerland Tempo Kings - which was a strap drive that Slingerland no longer made. So I never quite got used to the feel of the chaindrivern pedals.

Usually, the best pedal around - is the one you are used to. It took me a little while to adjust to the Axis pedals, but as I got used to them, my kicking speed increased exponentially.


It's one of the few products that I have a hard time seeing anyone really making a better version.
Except, of course me. LOL! I've got a footpedal design in the works. Well, technically, it's already designed - I just need to come up with the money to build the prototype. I have a friend who is a machinist and he's going to help me work out the kinks, and if I can get this thing going, we're going to go into business together.
So, he'll get part of the profits, and I'll get trained in how to use the CNC machines to make the things - so that works for me. :D


Tim
Interesting. Are you just making the footboard?
 
Axis pedals are great for consistent double kick rolls (death and black metal). They are ultra fast and responsive. But as stated before, they dont give you alot of power, which is why it is very much true that these drummers will use triggers 95% of the time.

I have have a DW9000 and an Iron Cobra. I got the DW first because I have used DW for 10 years. I wish I had the Tama all along. It is so much more consistent for me. I have played metal and staight up rock. I use them really now for the triplets and other embelishments. Not much rolling.

I also would give a thumbs up to the Pearl pedals. It really depends alot on technique. Everyone has a different one, so try try try...you will eventually find the one you like.
 
BroKenSticKs said:
Interesting. Are you just making the footboard?


No, I've designed an entire pedal. :D
It isn't based on "gravity" like all of the other pedals around...i.e., it's not a "leverage" based pedal.

It's specifically designed for Metal drummers.

Tim
 
Tim Brown said:
No, I've designed an entire pedal. :D
It isn't based on "gravity" like all of the other pedals around...i.e., it's not a "leverage" based pedal.

It's specifically designed for Metal drummers.

Tim

For metal drummers... does that mean that it hits harder than Axis? If it does, then be sure to tell me if u make em, cuz I wud be glad to buy em!
 
'AXIS A Longboard' or 'TRICK Pro1-V Bigfoot' Pedals.

Both these brands of pedals are made of Aircraft-Grade Materials and have a 'Zero Backlash Universal-joint' option that literally makes the double Pedals 'feel' like two single pedals.

Both these brands have a cult following and the argument between owners of each brand is not dissimilar to the X-box fans Vs Playstation Fans. Rarely do they see eye to eye. But one thing is for sure, these babies are built to last and built to fly.

The main difference between these two pedals is the AXIS still uses an 'Expansion Spring' to recoil the beater and footboard back to its starting position whereas the TRICK utilizes a 'Compression Spring' much the same as the Ludwig Speed Kings of olde.

They both have their good and bad points, and owners of both will find that they have to 'Dial their pedals in' to suit the personal playing style and physical limitations.

For my money,(and they are both very expensive double pedals) I like the Trick. It's Sleek, Silent and Adjustable on a whim. I can't wait for the Bigfoot mkII. With just a couple more adjustment possibilities, there will not be a more user friendly pedal on the planet.

Kudos to both companies for daring to do it better and not settle for mediocrity!

Glenn.:)
 
Both these brands of pedals are made of Aircraft-Grade Materials and have a 'Zero Backlash Universal-joint' option that literally makes the double Pedals 'feel' like two single pedals.

Both these brands have a cult following and the argument between owners of each brand is not dissimilar to the X-box fans Vs Playstation Fans. Rarely do they see eye to eye. But one thing is for sure, these babies are built to last and built to fly.

The main difference between these two pedals is the AXIS still uses an 'Expansion Spring' to recoil the beater and footboard back to its starting position whereas the TRICK utilizes a 'Compression Spring' much the same as the Ludwig Speed Kings of olde.

They both have their good and bad points, and owners of both will find that they have to 'Dial their pedals in' to suit the personal playing style and physical limitations.

For my money,(and they are both very expensive double pedals) I like the Trick. It's Sleek, Silent and Adjustable on a whim. I can't wait for the Bigfoot mkII. With just a couple more adjustment possibilities, there will not be a more user friendly pedal on the planet.

Kudos to both companies for daring to do it better and not settle for mediocrity!

Glenn.:)

thanks glenn, for the great advice i've been shopping for a double pedal since 2005 and its about time someone gave me a good brand
 
I've used Axis pedals for 15 years at least. I've had 4 sets of doubles. They appear to be designed by farmers and built by areo-space. One day for fun I bought a Pearl Eliminator double. It played as good as the Axis and was half the price. The adjustments were easy to make and they stayed where you set them. There were no mickey mouse hardware store parts either. Axis.........an expensive joke in my opinion. Vergil Donati does well with the Eliminator pedals, so if it's good enough for him..............
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