behringer mixers

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I agree with you Omen. There's a lot of snobbery around here. I've bought some cheap gear up till now, quite a bit of it Behringer. I've had zero problems out of my Beh......stuff and I'd probably buy certain pieces of Beh....gear again. May yet get a Beh....compressor. But, when someone says you can't hear the difference between a B..... (or Mackie...or other cheaper mixer) pre and a better pre.... well, that's just not correct. I think that you can get some good home recordings out of cheap gear if you're a good musician/singer and you can have a great time, but it doesn't hurt to know the things that make for the sound that you're really striving for....and that's the sound that you hear on commercial CDs. I mean, the reason you wanted to play music anyway is because you heard a band's record or CD. And for those who are trying hard to get that sound, you have to know that it costs money to do it and it takes good equipment. There's no reason for folks to get frustrated when they just can't get "that sound". That sound came from a lot of talent and at least a fairly hefty cash outlay. You're simply not going to get it with cheap gear. That said, I think some of the cheaper gear is getting better and better all the time and the "sound" is getting more and obtainable with it. I certainly am not looking down on Behringer owners.... I think they do a pretty good job at a cheap price. But when you get a little more cash inflow, you're not going to buy much of it anymore....you're gonna buy the stuff that makes you sound better. And then you'll probably get puffed up and start making fun of people who buy Behringer.....:D....and some poor Behringer guy will get hacked off.... It's a terrible cycle.
 
:cool: I use the 3242 for remotes, does a decent job. no problems, not quite as good sounding as my Tascam 2524 main mixer..........



da MUTT
 
I just bought a Berhinger and am quite satisfied, I am sure that as you move up the in price range there are advantages and benefits to each product, but there again when you only have $100 you buy what you can...

By the way the average people that I have distributed my recording to have not complained to me about the mixer quality, they complained about my mixing...
 
I spent the last year and a half with a MX 602A mixer, and was very happy as I was learning the whole recording process, then I rented a Mackie VLZ Pro for a comparison, and the improvement was significant, borrowed a DMP3 and the improvement was significant again, then tried a Neve board at a friends, and was floored. Now, I can't stomach the sound that the MX602A gives me and I have spent the last few months saving some bucks. I can't afford a Neve, but I am going for a SOundcraft board, not only for the pres, but for all teh features the board has as well, on the m4 board, there are 4 preamps, 4 stereo ins, 4 aux sends per channel, direct outs, inserts, plus a S/PDIF out in addition to the analog outs. This gives the potential to have 8 simultaneous outputs, which would take a Behringer UB1604.

I agree that for beginners, a Behringer board is fine, but it doesn't take long before you realize that it is the weak link n the chain.
 
For most home recording follks, the weak link in the chain is usually far more physical. Things like poor mics, background noise, basic playing and singing, guitar amp noise, etc. Most of these swamp other electrical issues like mixer brand.

If usually boils down to what you want to do, how you want to do it, and what you have to spend.

Since I record one thing at a time, I use the digital recorder itself with no external mixer at all. I use my MX602A mixer for live work to mix stereo guitar and synth guitar before going to power amp and speakers.

Ed
 
I've been using a beh mx1604a and have had zero problems.

It depends on your situation and desired price/performance... I'm in college and can't even afford to buy a piece of gear without selling something something else. so the beh does the job for me. dont listen to the snobs, and get what works for you.
 
i'm a newbee on This forum but have been on similar (german, french,...) and it's always the same story : you try to find out more about how to record cheaply or just want to talk to people who're doing the same stuff you're doing but then there's always these people who think they are 'pro's' because they (are able to) spend $5000 on some 'pro' equipment (a 'pro' desk alone will cost you about that btw). dissing people who buy behringer mixers, or own cheap guitars, or use discount computers,...

one word of advice : start a new site

PROFESSIONAL RECORDING DOT COM (for people with $5000+ studio's)
 
I've got almost 4x your "pro studio" cost limit, and I feel it is still very much a proJECT studio. My main mixer is a Behringer UB2442FX-PRO mixer, and I have a few other behringer things (compressor, SDC's). The pres in the UB series mixers totally ROCK the older pres in the MX series boards.

I've been using Behringer mixers for about four years now, and am in the midst of solving my VERY FIRST problem. I'm working through it with my retailer, and all is going relatively smoothly. By "relatively" I mean that I'm waiting for a brand-new one to come in to exchange the one I bought, or for another one to come back from their rentals department that they'll loan me for free while mine is being repaired under warranty.

The problem - one channel went down on me. I've read about this happening with other manufacturers' mixers too...

Chris
 
Chris Tondreau said:
I've got almost 4x your "pro studio" cost limit, and I feel it is still very much a proJECT studio. My main mixer is a Behringer UB2442FX-PRO mixer, and I have a few other behringer things (compressor, SDC's).

Chris
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alright, you can stay thanx to the beh stuff :)
 
Wow you guys sure do throw that term PRO around a lot. Gear is Gear. Tools, and nothing more. I personally can’t see how you can use the words Behringer and Pro in the same sentence. Note that this is not a dis on anyone or his or her gear, just an observation. We are supposed to be serving the music, not jerking off at our gear collections.

It’s all so subjective. I mean I have heard great records that were done on a VS1680 that went PLATNUM! I have also heard and worked on albums that were done on Million dollar PRO desks that suck the big peepee.

Make recording a fun experience for the artist. Enjoy the moment. Try to make the best record you can with the tools you have at the moment. Try to always be making forward progress with you ears and career as an AE and you can happily call whatever setup you use PRO.

I do Home Recording all the time as well as high budget studio work. I found this place as a link and just thought I’d throw my 2 cents in. Take it or Leave It.

Sure. You can hear the diference in the sound of a beh desk vs. a vintage Neve. If you can't hear that you still have to develop you ears, but it will happen if you work. If you don't have a budget for Neve stuff then who gives a flying flip anyhow.

You could have put a 57 on John Coltrane and it would have still been the greatest thing ever. EVER.

YMMV

kakaroto
 
its good

I've got a MX802A. I bought is about two years ago for $150. It was a great deal then, and for the $70 or so it goes for now that is just awesome!! I'd definatelly recommend it as a frist mixer.

I'd like to upgrade to a UB with subchannel in a bit, becasue my needs are expanding past the 4 mic preamps on the MX802, but its doing fine work.

If you want to check out some demos I;ve recorded using the mixer you can find them here --> http://cc.usu.edu/~davbradshaw

mostly check out the caliente sessions stuff- I have a bit better equipment and more experience by then. "I'd bet would be a good one to check out. Sadly they sound like junk becasue they're MP3s but the MX802A should do a good job for ya.
 
I recently sold my MX-802A for a Mackie VLZ-1202. I could hear a BIG difference between the preamps... especially when tweaking the EQ. The Mackie EQ is very musical and does what an EQ is supposed to do. The EQ on the MX-802A basically goes from a low-pitch tin can to a high-pitch tin can.

Having said that, the only reason I sold the MX-802A was because I wanted more control to record drums. The MX-802A only has 2 outputs, so when you are dealing with more than 2 mics (like when recording drums), your options are very limited.

For a first mixer, the MX-802A is awesome-- especially if you are only recording one or two tracks at a time. It just makes sense to start out with a small investment that will get you a lot of recording mileage. Then you can upgrade down the road and you really haven't lost much because the Behringer stuff is so cheap.
 
I think the other thing to keep in mind, is that if you are serious about getting a decent sound, you are going to use something more than the $25 preamp that came built into the mixing board. I have an mx802a, but ussually leave the black pre knobs at 0, and turn up my outboard pre to get desired signal level.... Does that make sense (or is the built in pre still affecting my sound while turned down)?
 
SmattyG said:
I think the other thing to keep in mind, is that if you are serious about getting a decent sound, you are going to use something more than the $25 preamp that came built into the mixing board. I have an mx802a, but ussually leave the black pre knobs at 0, and turn up my outboard pre to get desired signal level.... Does that make sense (or is the built in pre still affecting my sound while turned down)?
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I keep wondering the same thing. I'm using a RNP now but .. are my Korg pres polluting the signal? I'm sure they are to a certain extent but how much? I don't guess any of the standalone recorders just have one or more line level inputs with no pre in the path. Without expansion modules, I mean. It's like they insist on your using their pres. When I upgrade, that's going to be one of my considerations.
 
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