Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
ametth said:
aw c'mon...you only been gone 17 months.......
welcome back!
aw c'mon...you only been gone 17 months.......
welcome back!
tkingen
Djembes Rock
Mosfet,
I looked at your link to the Behringer website and there are more "known names" than I would've guessed using their gear. Be that as it may, my experience with the stuff remains...even if Roger Nichols or Bruce Sweiden started endorsing them. Btw, the only experience that I've had with Behringer has been the Composer Pro and the four channel headphone amp. When I replaced them with an RNC and a Presonus Central Station I felt that the sound of my rig improved.
On another note, I don't think that anyone was trying to make you feel unwelcome. I do believe that you were quick to jump when someone expressed a different opinion than yours. That's akin to a bull in a china shop (or maybe putting out fire with gasoline.) Stick around, offer your experiences and play well with others ;~)
BTW, I just talked with Carlson Audio today about renting a couple of mics. I'll ask Mark about Behringer gear!
Regards,
Terry
Regards
I looked at your link to the Behringer website and there are more "known names" than I would've guessed using their gear. Be that as it may, my experience with the stuff remains...even if Roger Nichols or Bruce Sweiden started endorsing them. Btw, the only experience that I've had with Behringer has been the Composer Pro and the four channel headphone amp. When I replaced them with an RNC and a Presonus Central Station I felt that the sound of my rig improved.
On another note, I don't think that anyone was trying to make you feel unwelcome. I do believe that you were quick to jump when someone expressed a different opinion than yours. That's akin to a bull in a china shop (or maybe putting out fire with gasoline.) Stick around, offer your experiences and play well with others ;~)
BTW, I just talked with Carlson Audio today about renting a couple of mics. I'll ask Mark about Behringer gear!
Regards,
Terry
Regards
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Mosfet
Banned
Yeah, ask them what they had a few years ago. I have no idea what they have in their racks now. I caught some festivals they did sound at a while back, ALL Behringer Composers in the processing rack. 
I don't know, it just seems that Carlson Audio can afford whatever they want, and when supplying systems for the festivals I was at, where their were ALL major label rock bands, if the Composer was going to kill the deal, it wouldn't have been there.
Maybe send a copy of "I do believe that you were quick to jump when someone expressed a different opinion than yours. That's akin to a bull in a china shop (or maybe putting out fire with gasoline.) Stick around, offer your experiences and play well with others ;~)" to BlueBear! I have seen him do this same thing over and over and over again. I have lurked around here and other places, so I am not just saying that because he did it to me! It is his MO. More specifically is I was quick to jump when people put words in my mouth, or try to put meaning into things that I say that I didn't even imply. That is typical BlueBear. I won't back down from it, nor do I really care what people think of my response to him is. He acted like an ass towards me, tried to imply I meant something I didn't, and offer no proof for his opinions that he states are facts.
It was a bit mean for me to knock his little project studio demo's. But, in context, if a guy is trying to push himself as some kind of expert, he better have some great audio to share! Soon here, I will offer some stuff up. I think after you listen to it, you will find that I do work that come much closer to being caparable to big time recordings than any of his stuff. I just don't hear anything in his demo that suggests that he is worth taking advice from.
I don't know, it just seems that Carlson Audio can afford whatever they want, and when supplying systems for the festivals I was at, where their were ALL major label rock bands, if the Composer was going to kill the deal, it wouldn't have been there.Maybe send a copy of "I do believe that you were quick to jump when someone expressed a different opinion than yours. That's akin to a bull in a china shop (or maybe putting out fire with gasoline.) Stick around, offer your experiences and play well with others ;~)" to BlueBear! I have seen him do this same thing over and over and over again. I have lurked around here and other places, so I am not just saying that because he did it to me! It is his MO. More specifically is I was quick to jump when people put words in my mouth, or try to put meaning into things that I say that I didn't even imply. That is typical BlueBear. I won't back down from it, nor do I really care what people think of my response to him is. He acted like an ass towards me, tried to imply I meant something I didn't, and offer no proof for his opinions that he states are facts.
It was a bit mean for me to knock his little project studio demo's. But, in context, if a guy is trying to push himself as some kind of expert, he better have some great audio to share! Soon here, I will offer some stuff up. I think after you listen to it, you will find that I do work that come much closer to being caparable to big time recordings than any of his stuff. I just don't hear anything in his demo that suggests that he is worth taking advice from.
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
Mosfet you sound just like Ed, but i still love ya.....i may add you to my Christmas card list.......youre in Oregon, right?
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Mosfet
Banned
That is two Ed references now here. I am not Ed.
Where I am right now is in your thoughts!
Where I am right now is in your thoughts!
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
if youre in my thought AND naked, then you may be Ed.....
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Mosfet
Banned
Well, so be it! Anything for you Gidge.
Blue Bear Sound
New member
Oh the bravado and testosterone is flowing freely.............Mosfet said:
*yawn*
You come talk to me when you too are running a commercial facility as your main occupation, sparky... until then, you're full of shit, IMNSHO......
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Mosfet
Banned
Yes, it is!
What is better than running my own is that others entrust me to run theirs! Owner/Engineers hire me stud boy.
What is better than running my own is that others entrust me to run theirs! Owner/Engineers hire me stud boy.
Blue Bear Sound
New member
What a stupid thing to say...........Mosfet said:
Since when is working for someone else ever better than owning your own and working for yourself?????
You talk an awful lot of shit for someone who's not provided any hint of credibility....... actually, right now, you seem to be talking a lot of shit simply for the sake of talking shit.
What exactly is your fucking problem, anyway?
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
Wasssup Cuzzin' Brucie Blue Bear......
.......hey man remember back in late 2000 where we had a discussion on dynamic processors (when you were known as bvaleria) and I MODESTLY sung the praises of the Composer Pro (yet knowing full well of it's limitations) on compression, decent gating perf as well as adequate peak control while you hailed the RNC as the "NEXT BIG THING" in affordable dynamic gear? We went back & forth (peacefully may I add) with you "verbally" twisting my arm to purchase the RNC (which I most gratefully did) and me begging you to at least try a Composer Pro (which I believe you did) for it's better-than-expected results? I believe you stated something to the effect that though the Comp Pro is nowhere near the level of perf of the RNC, the unit does provide adequate perf on basic signal processing on non-stressful applications (OK, I may be embellishing somewhat
) and does have some useful purposes.
My point is yes, the RNC is all that and then some yet the Composer is a somewhat decent addition to ones rack for it's price (remember again, I got mine brand new back in '00 for $59!).
And NO, I'm not feedin' the BEAR!! I took care of that when we met at JAMFEST2-2002!!!
Peace
Q.rM
.......hey man remember back in late 2000 where we had a discussion on dynamic processors (when you were known as bvaleria) and I MODESTLY sung the praises of the Composer Pro (yet knowing full well of it's limitations) on compression, decent gating perf as well as adequate peak control while you hailed the RNC as the "NEXT BIG THING" in affordable dynamic gear? We went back & forth (peacefully may I add) with you "verbally" twisting my arm to purchase the RNC (which I most gratefully did) and me begging you to at least try a Composer Pro (which I believe you did) for it's better-than-expected results? I believe you stated something to the effect that though the Comp Pro is nowhere near the level of perf of the RNC, the unit does provide adequate perf on basic signal processing on non-stressful applications (OK, I may be embellishing somewhat
) and does have some useful purposes.My point is yes, the RNC is all that and then some yet the Composer is a somewhat decent addition to ones rack for it's price (remember again, I got mine brand new back in '00 for $59!).
And NO, I'm not feedin' the BEAR!! I took care of that when we met at JAMFEST2-2002!!!
Peace
Q.rM
Blue Bear Sound
New member
Sure - that's not really what I questioned Mos-MF about... I took him to task over the "muddy" comment - because the one thing the RNC isn't, is "muddy"...... so I have to question the calibre of his ears.
Apparently, my "smart friend" here doesn't like people disagreeing with him and decided to start shooting his mouth off and getting personal about it... fair enough - I'll bite back!
Apparently, my "smart friend" here doesn't like people disagreeing with him and decided to start shooting his mouth off and getting personal about it... fair enough - I'll bite back!
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Mosfet
Banned
Oooooooooo! The bear is getting excited!
Who said I don't work for myself? I claimed that owners/engineers hire me. Just like bands hire you. I am lucky to freelance now, which is very much working for myself. I actually like it much better than owning a studio (I have built/ran/owned 3 of them in the past).
I will back off the talking shit when you apologize for calling my accurate statement about unbalanced gear in a balanced studio rediculous. Bruce, had you ever worked at a studio better than your little project studio there, you would know that no decent studios use the consoles channel inserts for dynamic processing. Just the fact that I know that gives me more credibility than you! Studio after studio I have worked out of have the output of the recorder normalled via a patchbay to the Tape Returns on the console (or some variation of that theme), and that is where outboard gear is inserted while mixing. Have a TRS type of insert point, which will be unbalanced send and return, go to a patchbay means that the audio will always run down that extra wire. Channel inserts are almost always post preamp/line input and pre eq. There is really no reason to use them in a studio environment. That just means extra wire, and forcing yourself to use gear in a unbalanced configuration. It is obvious that putting something like a compressor between the tape machines output and the input that is goes to on the console, thus keeping the signal balanced while running down wire, is far more favorable than using the channel insert.
Pull your head out of your ass before trying to get technical with me, or talking credibility with me. You have a Mackie board Re'an patchbays for christ sakes! The only part of your setup that is even close to something that give your facility credibility is the John Sayers designed rooms. If you had worked in any facility better than yours, and trust me, yours is no special place, you would have understood exactly why I made that comment.
Now you know what my fucking problem is jackass!
Who said I don't work for myself? I claimed that owners/engineers hire me. Just like bands hire you. I am lucky to freelance now, which is very much working for myself. I actually like it much better than owning a studio (I have built/ran/owned 3 of them in the past).
I will back off the talking shit when you apologize for calling my accurate statement about unbalanced gear in a balanced studio rediculous. Bruce, had you ever worked at a studio better than your little project studio there, you would know that no decent studios use the consoles channel inserts for dynamic processing. Just the fact that I know that gives me more credibility than you! Studio after studio I have worked out of have the output of the recorder normalled via a patchbay to the Tape Returns on the console (or some variation of that theme), and that is where outboard gear is inserted while mixing. Have a TRS type of insert point, which will be unbalanced send and return, go to a patchbay means that the audio will always run down that extra wire. Channel inserts are almost always post preamp/line input and pre eq. There is really no reason to use them in a studio environment. That just means extra wire, and forcing yourself to use gear in a unbalanced configuration. It is obvious that putting something like a compressor between the tape machines output and the input that is goes to on the console, thus keeping the signal balanced while running down wire, is far more favorable than using the channel insert.
Pull your head out of your ass before trying to get technical with me, or talking credibility with me. You have a Mackie board Re'an patchbays for christ sakes! The only part of your setup that is even close to something that give your facility credibility is the John Sayers designed rooms. If you had worked in any facility better than yours, and trust me, yours is no special place, you would have understood exactly why I made that comment.
Now you know what my fucking problem is jackass!
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Mosfet
Banned
And since you seem to want to hop around on the issues as you look more and more like an engineer loser jackass to me Bruce, yes, I said "muddy" about the RNC. About how a lot of the vocals on your demo's sound.
Again, if you are questioning the calibre of what I hear, I take that as a compliment, because I sure as hell would work a lot less if I heard things as you do!
Again, if you are questioning the calibre of what I hear, I take that as a compliment, because I sure as hell would work a lot less if I heard things as you do!
Blue Bear Sound
New member
Still talking shit............ oh well... I'm not surprised, you're remarkably consistent that way, so far......
I don't know who the fuck you are (nor do I care), but I've got nothing to prove to you... and I would never even remotely consider apologizing for my opinions to anyone, least of all some jerk-off with a bad attitude and a mouthful of shit.....
I tend to respect the other professionals the cohabit this site, and I get the same respect from them in return, and in many cases doing business with them off-line.... then there are the fuckwits such as yourself, professional or not, who harbour some inner chip-on-their-shoulder for whatever reason........
But in any case..... dealing with shitheads like you - who seem to have no other point than to try and trash their peers - doesn't interest me in the least. My communication with you is over........
I don't know who the fuck you are (nor do I care), but I've got nothing to prove to you... and I would never even remotely consider apologizing for my opinions to anyone, least of all some jerk-off with a bad attitude and a mouthful of shit.....
I tend to respect the other professionals the cohabit this site, and I get the same respect from them in return, and in many cases doing business with them off-line.... then there are the fuckwits such as yourself, professional or not, who harbour some inner chip-on-their-shoulder for whatever reason........
But in any case..... dealing with shitheads like you - who seem to have no other point than to try and trash their peers - doesn't interest me in the least. My communication with you is over........
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Mosfet
Banned
It took you long enough!
Can you assure me now that you won't come barging into threads where I post something useful with your typical "Flame the newbie because he said something I didn't bother to try to understand" posts?
Please say yes.
I didn't come here looking for your respect. After seeing how you trash on newbies for quite some time, I would call my trashing on you a sort of karma.
Can you assure me now that you won't come barging into threads where I post something useful with your typical "Flame the newbie because he said something I didn't bother to try to understand" posts?
Please say yes.
I didn't come here looking for your respect. After seeing how you trash on newbies for quite some time, I would call my trashing on you a sort of karma.
D
Dragon
Large and Scaly Mixing Maniac
It was probably obvious by his gratuitous insults, but now that we've unmasked Mosfet as sonusman, it appears most of his recent freelancing is in the painting industry
Blue Bear Sound
New member
You're one to talk, Ed.......Mosfet said:
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
Ok fella's, let's nip this shit in the bud and peacefully end this pissing contest!
Bruce! Mosfet! Obviously niether of you gentlemen know Jack Benny about tracking,mixing,dynamic & efx processing,cabling.........ANYTHING pertaining to RECORDING!!! The both of you are nothing more that diaper-wearing,pacifier sucking, incompetents who need to STFU, listen and learn from the BEST; ME!!!!! Now I don't have the time right now to edjumacate you both on the world of music and recording, but I'm willing to
squeeze you guys in sometime in Jan '05 where you'll both attend the class I teach at Mr.Q's Recording Detention Center where you'll attend your 1st class, Recording 101-B(101-A is for those who show potential).All for a small fee of $2,573.16 each(No checks please; cash or money orders only).
Now I want you 2 wussies to "cyber-ly" shake hands, make peace, listen to each other or else I'ma have to get all ghetto & sh#t on both of you!!!
Capece!?
Peace
Q.rM
Bruce! Mosfet! Obviously niether of you gentlemen know Jack Benny about tracking,mixing,dynamic & efx processing,cabling.........ANYTHING pertaining to RECORDING!!! The both of you are nothing more that diaper-wearing,pacifier sucking, incompetents who need to STFU, listen and learn from the BEST; ME!!!!! Now I don't have the time right now to edjumacate you both on the world of music and recording, but I'm willing to
squeeze you guys in sometime in Jan '05 where you'll both attend the class I teach at Mr.Q's Recording Detention Center where you'll attend your 1st class, Recording 101-B(101-A is for those who show potential).All for a small fee of $2,573.16 each(No checks please; cash or money orders only).
Now I want you 2 wussies to "cyber-ly" shake hands, make peace, listen to each other or else I'ma have to get all ghetto & sh#t on both of you!!!
Capece!?
Peace
Q.rM
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
Q, thats spam...... 
do you have a 2nd class course for us bargain hunters?.....
do you have a 2nd class course for us bargain hunters?.....