Bad news for Neumann, Shure, AKG etc...!

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From Sound On Sound Feb 2004:

"None of the other companies really have anyone who knows about music and sound, they test by numbers! In addition to the written specification, we conduct a listening test on every mic we build."

Siwei Zou
President of SE Electronics

Wow. Only SE Electronics has anyone who knows about music and sound working for them. Sell your mics now and replace your entire locker with their new range. You know it's gotta be right.:D
 
I think that if you re-read the article, Mr. Zou was referring to the other CHINESE microphone manufacturers, not Shure, Neumann, or AKG. It was a very interesting article; of particular note was the discussion of the manufacturing conditions (hand-drilled holes, etc.). No wonder unit-to-unit consistency is so common a concern...

-mg
 
Where's the beef???

So where can I view the aforementioned article? Is it a print article or cyber based?

Thanks, Steve
 
mgraffeo said:
I think that if you re-read the article, Mr. Zou was referring to the other CHINESE microphone manufacturers, not Shure, Neumann, or AKG.
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I was re-producing a complete quote from an SE advert in another magazine! I've not read the original article because I can't afford SOS, but this was a full-page ad for their new mics and this quote is right in the middle of the page.

So you may well be right. Sorry for not making it clear. I was surprised by this as a marketing claim that no other company has anyone musical involved with their design team!!
 
noisedude said:
From Sound On Sound Feb 2004:

"None of the other companies really have anyone who knows about music and sound, they test by numbers! In addition to the written specification, we conduct a listening test on every mic we build."

Siwei Zou
President of SE Electronics



Big Deal. Leo Fender was NOT a musician. He could not even PLAY a guitar. I guess his guitars were not too good.
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also a good point. i've not heard brett or alan singing recently :D
 
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acorec said:
noisedude said:
From Sound On Sound Feb 2004:

"None of the other companies really have anyone who knows about music and sound, they test by numbers! In addition to the written specification, we conduct a listening test on every mic we build."

Siwei Zou
President of SE Electronics



Big Deal. Leo Fender was NOT a musician. He could not even PLAY a guitar. I guess his guitars were not too good.
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I agree, I never did like Fender guitars at all.
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noisedude said:
also a good point. i've not heard brett or alan singing recently :D
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Is that a good or bad thing... lol? J/K

I sure get tired of hearing/reading all the cheap sales tricks from budget product companies...
 
i reckon it's probably a good thing ... ! as long as their mics are good, they don't need to sing!!

i know what you mean about advertising. i know i'm buying an entry-level (i.e. "cheap") mic. i want to get the best one for that, but marketing like this will only put me off! too bad I already own an SE!
 
SE are apparently running a competition as a promo type thing but someone from SE decided to register here at HR and spam the big mic thread about it...............talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

I believe the post was reported and it may have been removed by now.

:rolleyes:
 
as i said before, i know people who've met this siwei fellow and give him high marks. rather than doing the old home rec dogpile why don't you guys wait around and see if the new (and reportedly much improved) se produces anything worthwhile?

this will be the future. the chinese will cut mxl, adk and studio projects out of the loop eventually in favor of chinese owned brands. there are too many $$ in carrying charges that the chinese aren't getting and they'll want them eventually.
 
ozraves said:
as i said before, i know people who've met this siwei fellow and give him high marks. rather than doing the old home rec dogpile why don't you guys wait around and see if the new (and reportedly much improved) se produces anything worthwhile?

this will be the future. the chinese will cut mxl, adk and studio projects out of the loop eventually in favor of chinese owned brands. there are too many $$ in carrying charges that the chinese aren't getting and they'll want them eventually.
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Maybe so..If they build a nice mic then yes...If they build the same thing as whats out there now..or just marginaly better..why bother.....ya know...Just rammblin'



Don




Don
 
I disagree.

The Chinese already have a handsome market with their copy-cat mics inside China.

The major manufacturers are starting the 3D patent process now, and will sue the crap out of illegal Chinese clones that sell outside of China.
 
bgavin said:

The major manufacturers are starting the 3D patent process now, and will sue the crap out of illegal Chinese clones that sell outside of China.
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What's the "3D patent process"?


Bob
 
Actually, my favorite quote of theirs is this one:

"So we added them to our line of premium microphones. All of which have handmade capsules. And handmade diaphragms. Because that is a thousand year old idea we pride ourselves on."

I had no idea that handmade microphones capsules were a thousand-year old idea.

-Duardo
 
It is my understanding the "look and feel" (hence 3D) can now be patented. From what I read, the high end European manufacturers are already doing this, and this is why the Chinese ripoffs don't get released outside of China.

Evidently the Chinese legal system prevents Neumann, et al, from suing Chinese manfacturers in China, for patent violation. China is the world's largest market, so they have no end of potential buyers for the clone mics.
 
ozraves said:
this will be the future. the chinese will cut mxl, adk and studio projects out of the loop eventually in favor of chinese owned brands. there are too many $$ in carrying charges that the chinese aren't getting and they'll want them eventually.
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Maybe so... I don't know. But I think the Chinese will continue selling MXL, ADK, SE, Studio Projects, Behringer and etc products as long as they are willing to pay for them. And as long as people are willing to buy cheap crap it will always be this way. It's really too bad that some companies/people are tricking people into believing their cheap Chinese made crap is as good as the well made top name brand stuff. :(
 
i'm not interested in a homerec dogpile or whatever, and i ain't criticising their mics. i'm certainly peeved that i let a salesman talk me into a mic of theirs on special offer which then turns out to be an end of line one to be replaced by an 'A' model.

but i was only laughing at this quote in an ad of theirs. i don't have any larger view on this!!
 
i've used one of the se mics that was made at the feilo factory. it was the se1 small condenser. i didn't like it.

i had heard some good comments about two of the feilo made large condensers but never followed up on it as i'm not a fan of going deep into chinese mic lines. it can get tedious.

however, since they've broken from feilo and apparently doing their own mics now, i'm willing to give them another shot based upon the positive rec on this siwei fellow.
 
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