Bad Day

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Go to http://www.slackmaster2000.com and click the "music" link. The first song is called "Bad Day". The site is sort of goofy sometimes so don't be afraid to hit your refresh button.

Anyhow, not sure what to think of this song. It's kind of crossing the line of silly weenie boy, which is not where I had expected it to go. Lots of experimentation though...if anyone is curious as to the creation process just lemme know.

Thanks.

P.S. a couple of people have reported that when you click the stream links for the first time, a text file with a link to the mp3 comes up. If this happens, simply go back and click the stream link again. Goofy!

Slackmaster 2000
 
Can dig it!

Your voice reminds me of J. Mascas, of Dinosaur Jr. You'd prolly like whatever album "The Wagon" is on, good stuff there.

IMHO, too much dynamical difference between the spacey-atmosphere and song itself. Also, 2:10 is short for a regular song, much less an EMBEDDED song (you know what i mean).

Whatever's being said @ 0:28 starts to really "ssss" @ 0:36, 0:47, and 0:49.5. Dunno what you're saying, but it might detract from the primary lyrics in each area...

On my bassey speakers here at work, the bass feels a little loud. I'll d/l it at home (as I do for most of your stuff anyway), and listen to it there, see if I'm crazy or something... This might have more to do with the overall dynamic change of the song, dunno.

I always dig your music, Boden. And your site looks great, love the lettering especially (and the layout kicks ass, too).
 
I like it but I agree with Kelly, you should smooth out the transition or make the difference between the spacey thing and the rest of the song less dramatic. Sounds good though. I would flesh it out a bit more (its a good thing that I want to hear more of it).
 
I love it Slack! I really dig the gurgling sound that underscores everything. Nice touch. It's too damned short though! Then again, what's the old show biz saying, "leave them wanting more"?

I don't mind the transition between parts. I like it. I do however think that the vocals could've been more consistent in terms of level. It could've come up in the mix a little more too, but it kind of fits the song sitting in the back so maybe not. I'd still like to hear it more consistent though.

Other than that I think it was great.

Oh yeah, the site looks great. I encountered no problems at all.
 
I found it to have a bit too much low mids in the "gurgling" during first minute - too thick and rumbling, it buries the vocals.

That said, the speakers I listened through is little more than decent ($80 Labtech PC speakers, 2 satellites + woofer), but you should mix so it sounds good on all systems, right? :)
 
Kelly: thanks man. I agree that the vocals are a little low. The "extra voice" in there is me repeating the 2nd verse during the first, and the first during the second...since they are basically interchangable. I didn't want it to be really phonetically audible...I just wanted a voice in there. Maybe I shouldn't have panned the main vocals off. Hmm.

I'm having a huge problem with vocals. I can't turn my ART up past about 50% or the SM57 starts to sound like a tin can. So the levels on those vocals topped out at like -20db which is just horrible. That's why you can kind of hear a hissing in the vocal part. I'll have to work on it more. I did the vocals in about 20 minutes (came home 20 minutes before everyone else...recall that I can't sing in front of people)....maybe I'll redo them later.

The bass was a last minute turn up. Bass is sooo hard to mix responsibly because if you turn it up, everything shakes and feels cool. Then when you turn it back down to acceptable levels, that cool feeling is gone. I need to resist resist resist! Oh, and the bass is double tracked, hard left & hard right...which has something to do with the boominess. I was going for wide, but I got boom.

Dolemite: As my other stuff might suggest, I just LOVE to nail people with dynamics. "Nobody expects the spanish inquisition." There's about an 8db mean difference between the first section and the kick. Heh, maybe I should consider not doing that anymore...it's just fun to turn it up really loud and see people kind of jump.

I like the song length where it is. I'm so tired of the same old pop song structure and I'm experimenting with alternative styles. I recently got into Pavement, and there's this song they do called Zurich is Stained....a perty little number that clocks in at just around 2 minutes. There's only one really nice change in it when the second verse starts....but because there's only that one key moment, you appreciate it more and listen for it. I'm not on the same songwriting level, but that's kind of what I had in mind. Plus, there's nothing worse than a 5 minute whining song :)

CMiller: argh...the more I listen to the vocals, the better I think they are...but I know that's because I know how they're SUPPOSED to sound. Like I mentioned to kelly above...I'm having level problems, so I couldn't compress the vocals without swishing the background hiss. You are absolutely right, they're not horribly inconsistant, but not being a singer I do need the help of a compressor.

I'm glad you mentioned the gurgling noise. That's an open hi-hat sample stretched out about 40 times...then I did some sine wave nastiness to it...and finally ran the sucker through Prosoniq's North Pole resonant filter (a really cool freeware VST plug, http://www.prosoniq.com ). I also ran the main guitar through the filter which gives it that sort of organlike quality that melds with the background noise.

Oysterman: I was sort of going for tension. I also find it a bit irritating...it's right in that frequency range that makes your ears feel all clogged up. You should have heard it before I mixed more of the electric string noise in there, it was really annoying. I tried to find balance between annoying and irritating, so that when the shit kicks in at the end, it's all the more relieving. I'm actually suprised that more people didn't have this same complaint. Personally I really like the way it makes the transition feel. I do agree that it interferes with the vocals, but really they just need to come up in level considerably. Thanks for listening!

Slackmaster 2000
 
I like the transition...

...the song is basically the transition. This is a work in progress, Slack, it could be an excellent song if you finish the thoughts. You don't know this but you can sing! Lead guitar sound seems a little flat.
 
song lenght is perfect..these bozos dont know what they're talking about. I've already told you my thoughts on it so I wont go into that here.
great song though, I really think your starting to find a voice.
 
Nice work Slack,

I haven't downloaded much lately, because I have a blown left woofer (that's my left). I think that was a movie "My left woofer".

Anyway I love the way you mix economy of notes with fx, the sound lingers in my head.

What comes to mind is when the volume come up, do the same with vox volume. I know you don't like your voice, but we do!

Nice recording, and tune.

I will play again when I get woofer replacement, Boston Acoustic 61/2 $50.00 and that includes shipping, and I live in Florida, so no tax. Not bad.

Keep recording.

GT

BTW: I think listening to you guys, is what blew my woofer. I'll see you in court. Judy or Mathis, I'll let you decide.
 
SM

I didn't think the gurgling was too loud but I did think either the voice could come up or the guitar could come down, but I think you addressed that. I thought everything else was fine. Nice tune, I liked it, when you mentioned goofy, I was expecting the worse, but it was a really nice tune

Ray J
 
Slack,
I tried to get to your site about 20 times. It won't let me in...

I can't even get to the main site to experience further goofiness.

Did you make it Mac proof, or something?

Brad
 
Brad, keep trying! Try to force a refresh, if you can figure out how to do that on a macintosh. With IE on windows, you simply hold down the shift key when you hit the refresh button.

I threw the page up with IE in mind, so it should work on both mac and PC Internet Exploder. Try this link if slackmaster2000.com doesn't work: http://www.thesoggybiscuit.com/~sm2k

Let me know if you continue to have problems.

Slackmaster 2000
 
I got it with no problem- but you should consider using

http://www.nowhereradio.com

They, like yourself are partial to IE as a client.

Cripes! I said, "Partial".

Am I doomed to an existence in Montana?
Even if they had Puffins, I wouldn't be swayed.

They also work for both lo and hi - fi streams and D/Ls.

I liked both parts. I thought the vocals were reminiscent of the stuff you did in "Hindsight", which I LIKED! Something about the texture and inflection, not the recording.

I hate to get involved with Ed's line that you can't even think about doing it right without some serious cash, but maybe a better pre than the ART would give you some more control in this department.

I'm still listening to it to see if I can associate the procedure you described with the final tracks.

As far as drums: that's better than the stuff I've been able to put together. (Sorry that's not more of an endorsement) It sounds more like a drummer than the sequences I've used. How were they constructed?

The dB jolt was cool.

The length was OK! (But you knew that, coming from me)
 
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Okay, I was able to get it by using your soggy biscuit.

Nice stuff - and I strongly disagree with those who said it was too short or that the idea maybe wasn't finished - those dynamics and the overall mood left me feeling very Pink Floyd-ish. That is a good thing as far as I am concerned. I thought the lead guitar could have been a little brighter for contrast - it blended too well with the "darkellow" (Dark/mellow) vibe I was getting - for some reason, my ear was wanting the lead guitar to stand out just a little more. That was the Pink Floyd thing again - I was expecting a David Gilmour-ish tone for that lead.

I, too, really liked the gurgling.

I really dig this even more on second listen. Hope you aren't offended by the PF comparisons. It's not like it sounds like you were trying to sound like them or anything - that was just the vibe I got. A little surprised nobody else mentioned it - maybe I am just wrong.

Good shit, dude. I'm envious of your ability to vary the style of your tunes so well.

Brad
 
Ok guys, I remixed and brought the vocals out considerably. Please listen again if you get the notion and tell me what you think. I left the old mix up too for comparison. I had to do some things that might have slightly detracted from what I was going for, and I'm not 100% sure it was worth it. http://www.slackmaster2000.com

LI: Thanks for listening. Finally the solo guitar comments I expected are coming out. I just like that sound so much...it might not be appropriate for this tune though.

ametth: thanks :)

GT: thanks for listening...especially considering your system is gimping. As I mentioned above, I brought the vocals out a bit more, I think it helps.

Ray J: thanks!

Doc: thanks for the kind words....I'm saving up for a 4033...which I should have in 29343483 years.

For drums I used fruity loops to do the arranging, nothing special there. The trick is to use as high quality samples as possible...and make sure they're totally dry or you can't do anything with em. I can't remember where I got all of my samples, but I have a good dozen or so decent drum hits that I feel are usable and extremely realistic. If you want I can either figure out where I got em all from, or just send them to you. I know that the snares are samples from 2dcd.com , and the crashes and ride I got from Big Kauhuna. Oh, and sometimes I use the "humanize" function in fruity loops on the volume of the drum hits...but VERY sparingly. I dunno...my best friend is/was a drummer and I grew up listening to him practice all the time...so when a drum sounds too fake it really irritates me. The biggest problem with fake drums is dynamics of course, and the fact that applying reverb for some reason makes them sound even more fake, no matter how real the sample is. Hmm...welp I'm rambling now.

Brad: damn, being compared to PF is pretty cool. I've always been a big pink floyd fan....I wasn't conciously going for that kind of sound, but it doesn't suprise me that you hear some influence. Actually, I think I hear what you're talking about in the vocals a bit now that I listen again. Anyway, thanks for the kind words, I always look forward to your comments.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Hi Slack,

The song does leave me wanting more, but it feels like a complete idea. I don't think that you've left something out or haven't finished the song. I just think its the nature of the feel of the song. I like it!

For what its worth, it sounds to me like something that you'd hear on the soundtrack of an "uncool" or "trying-to-be-unmainstream" smash hit movie. I just immediately got images going through my head: people talking about something grandiose but irrelavant, smoking cigarettes, at a nighttime coffee shop with this tune playing on the house system. ;)

I also like the vocals up version, though I think it works the other way, too. Depends on what mood you want. The quieter version sounds more introspective.

Listening again, I think the cymbals are a bit loud.

Good stuff- very original. I think your voice fits right in. Reminds me a bit Peter Murphy.

Take care,
Chris
 
Hey Slack, I never meant to imply that the song was short because it wasn't fully developed. Quite the contrary. I wanted it longer because I'm selfish and want to hear more of it! I'll go get the new version.
 
Total fuckin ripoff man! ...ha! just kidding Slack, I liked it. It does have some P/F color to it though, but hell everything I hear these day's sounds a little like something I've heard before.The length was cool, and that's one of the main things I liked about it. I think the "tone" on the guitar fit the song also. Now go clean your studio up man...it's a wreck:D
 
for me, the perfect test of a song is if it can be used in a movie as part of the soundtrack.

This song totally fits the bill. Totally.

Man, sorry I can't really help you with the mix. I am too engrossed in the song to even bother.

peace and keep it up
 
Very cool. How do you get the almost keyboard like sound going on at the beginning with the acoustic, heavy reverb?

I think the snare could use more reverb, with some predelay. When the electrics crash in, the acoustic picking noise in the left speaker goes out of time a bit, racing for a bit, the clicks fall off the snare downbeat. It does get back into the groove towards the end. This is being a bit nit-picky.

The vocal performance is great. The vocal sound is good to, I don't have any problems with that.

I like the rumbling bass.

Good job Slack.
 
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