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Hey Wig:
I already commented on the other site.
Will just add that Brenda loves it too. :)
 
Hi Wig,
Nice recording of a 'classic'.
A fair bit of cathedral like reverb and BIG sounds as is appropriate.
One of the synth pads has a rattle like sound attached - reminds me of the sympathetic vibrations of a snare drum during a gig - not as loud but similar.
What mic did you use?
 
Assuming you weren't going for realism in the instrumentation, it's really sounding good. Some of the samples are great. Some of them are 'lectric...but it's not unpleasant.

My one nit: Dynamics. Swell, fold, thinning, thickening: not much...just an even, unblemished highway drive from A to B. And I'm guessing the singer sang to the completed orchestration. She sings it the way the orchestration drives it: 30 MPH start to finish..or at least 3/4ths the way through...which is where I'd heard everything I thought I was going to hear...intrest waning.

Needs to be 'conducted' with attention to dynamics and passion....something hard to do when composing and recording on a DAW....but absolutely essential to a great orchestral work. Imagination is the key. But it's a very good vocal performance and recording. With a dynamic componant added, or accented a lot more...and driving the soul of the singer to belt it out in the right places...it'd be really really good. MHO
 
What he's not telling you, JM is that this was just an impromptu session between friends.

I'd love to hear them both getting serious.
 
Impromptu?? Hard to imagine how that went down. Was it piano and vox, live...then the orchestra added? Or was the music complete before the gal just tossed the vocal on, non-challant-like??

Anyway, it's good work. I assumed he want a critique. And what it has to have is dynamics, to drive a passionate vocal performance, and make it interesting and pleasing for its length.

Here's my fave after a quick search for a great version. Note the swell, fold, thinning and thickening in the orchestration, and the dynamics of the vocal, in accordance with the conductor's interpretation. And add the organic timing, too. The version posted is metronomic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nrtFkj6Bo&feature=related
 
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jeffmaher said:
Impromptu?? Hard to imagine how that went down. Was it piano and vox, live...then the orchestra added? Or was the music complete before the gal just tossed the vocal on, non-challant-like??

Anyway, it's good work. I assumed he want a critique. And what it has to have is dynamics, to drive a passionate vocal performance, and make it interesting and pleasing for its length.

Here's my fave after a quick search for a great version. Note the swell, fold, thinning and thickening in the orchestration, and the dynamics of the vocal, in accordance with the conductor's interpretation. And add the organic timing, too. The version posted is metronomic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nrtFkj6Bo&feature=related
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Impromptu it was. We were just doing snippets of church music so she could put together a demo to try to get jobs singing for services. She sings in my church and since I have a studio in my house I told her I would do it. She is basically singing to pre-recorded music that I load into a stereo track. I think the accompaniment is lacking and that I could do better myself, but we put only 4 minutes into this recording. One take. I'd like to do the music and have her sing it again. My patches aren't as good as East/West Quantum Leap, but they're not chopped liver either.

Wig:)
 
Not a fan of the synth strings or whatever they are. Kind of cheap sounding. The rest sounds pretty good. Vocals are pretty loud, but I guess they're supposed to be? I picture this woman as a big fat lady in a viking costume. Yeah? :D
 
rayc said:
Hi Wig,
Nice recording of a 'classic'.
A fair bit of cathedral like reverb and BIG sounds as is appropriate.
One of the synth pads has a rattle like sound attached - reminds me of the sympathetic vibrations of a snare drum during a gig - not as loud but similar.
What mic did you use?
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I don't like the synth pads and you're right about the open snare kind of sound.

I'd like to re-do the music from scratch. I used two mics one right on top of the other so they don't give you a stereo effect. An Apex 415 and an AT 2020.

I used to place them about 10 inches apart to record vocals, but one side was always dominant for some reason. I couldn't center the vocals, which is where I think they belong. So now I put one on a gooseneck and one on a boom right on top of each other.

Wig
 
Greg_L said:
Huh? I mentioned the strings. That's my only nit. :confused:
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I don't like the strings either, Greg. I have a Roland XP-30 that can do a better job than that and it's ten year old technology.

Wig:)
 
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