Auto-Tune Examples

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Rokket said:
Thanks! I am pretty certain that I am having breath control issues that I don't know how to resolve, too. That's why I was thinking voice coach.

I'm sure a voice coach would help alot (i could use one too)........but we might as well work on what we can in the mean time. I've never had a breath control problem that I knew about so I don't have any advise on that. All I can say is that when I have some kind of technique issue with singing, guitar, etc., after identifying the problem, I try to isolate it and come up with ways to work on it. Like if I'm having problems with a guitar lick, I'll try to figure out exactly which notes are giving me issues and I'll work out a little picking exercise that isolates the weakness so that I can work on it.

Some things I work on for singing are intervals, dynamics, and relaxing. For pitch control, I usually play thru some scales and intervals on the keyboard (piano) or guitar and sing along. Then I'll sing the intervals without an instrument for backup. Sometimes I do it with melodies too. I'll just play a simple melody on an instrument while singing along and then do the same thing without an instrument (pitch reference or crutch). It's pretty good for ear training too, I think.........elementary stuff but it helps me. :D After I'm half ass warmed up, I'll do the same stuff but work on singing soft, medium, and loud notes too. When I'm doing this, I try to keep an eye on any tension in my body, especially my head throat and diaphragm. I know that in the higher notes and/or singing loud notes, I tense up alot so I try to spend some time focusing on staying relaxed on high and loud notes.

Hell, even when I'm in the car listening to a cd I can practice. I'll pick a fairly easy song that's within my range and sing along, paying attention to my pitch relative to the cd. If I hit a series of crappy notes, I'll rewind and listen again until I know the notes in my head. Then I'll keep going over that small piece until I'm nailing it. After I think I have it, I turn down the radio so that I can get a reality check on my pitch and timbre. I've learned to sing a few whole cd's note for note (ok almost) this way. What's cool about practicing in the car (if you're alone) is that you can sing as loud as you want without disturbing anybody, except that old lady in the next lane that thinks you're a psycho.

I try to pay attention to the timbre of my voice too. On certain songs, I might hate the sound of my voice even though my pitch is on. On others I might be able to sound very similar to the singer on the cd and feel really comfortable singing a song in that key, tempo, or range. I think this helps in identifying the sweet spot in one's voice.

I don't do this stuff very often any more but I really should be. My singing has gone way down hill (not that I ever got that far up the hill but I've moistend a few vagina's in my day :D ). I really do believe that if you spend enough time working on something, learn to identify your weaknesses, and spend a good portion of your practice time focusing on your weaknesses, you can get good at anything you want to do. The hardest part is identifying one's weaknesses. You seem to have already done that. Until I really focused on it, I never would have thought that I could even half ass sing. I must have been born with the worst relative pitch of anyone I know but I'm much better now. :D
 
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rokket, i came across this and thought you might want to check it out:
 
whjr15 said:
Using rascal flatts as an example, what is the most obvious instance that you can think of it being used? Is it the crazy, almost random, "runs" that he does?

Yeah, the one at about 2:15 in Life is a Highway is a good (bad) example. It doesn't even sound remotely human. There are too many to mention, really.
 
I know I am probably talking in disagreement with many on this, but for some reason, I believe I can hear why "life is a highway" by rascal flatts to be a hit. It has many of the ingredients to make it one. Even the autotune sounding effect..and I am not even agreeing that autotune was even used...but probably was. It gives it a character to the vocals that make it sound like nothing you would typically hear in a local live setting. And...I know most in THIS forum would probably say "thank goodness, because it stinks". Overall, the mix, though very pop oriented, is good. The playing is tight, and even the guitar solo shows the guy can play, without going overboard with fretboard masturbation.
The intro is great, the drums sound REALLY good. I have really yet to hear a lead sound as equally as good too in the MP3 clinic. Overall good arrangement, good production, and the real "downer" of the song is you can sing along with it.
There's plenty of ear candy too, that you wouldn't pick up in a car radio either.

Ok.... guess my rep is now ruined!! :cool:
 
shakiras latest song... hips dont lie ? something like that
well the bit where it it goes "im on tonight my hips dont lie" completely reaks of it :rolleyes: But it sounds cool in that context.
Basically the best way to hear it is to use the program (try the demo) for a day or so and then you will def know how it sounds
 
Just downloaded the demo, and tried it out for the first time. After randomly turning knobs for about 3 seconds, I now realize how much it is used today.

On a side note, I never knew I had so much hidden vibrato in my voice... and such perfect runs!!!! I never wouldve realized my potential without autotune!!















joking
 
i auto tune my ass to make it sound not so sloppy. :D
 
mixmkr said:
I know I am probably talking in disagreement with many on this, but for some reason, I believe I can hear why "life is a highway" by rascal flatts to be a hit. It has many of the ingredients to make it one. Even the autotune sounding effect..and I am not even agreeing that autotune was even used...but probably was. It gives it a character to the vocals that make it sound like nothing you would typically hear in a local live setting. And...I know most in THIS forum would probably say "thank goodness, because it stinks". Overall, the mix, though very pop oriented, is good. The playing is tight, and even the guitar solo shows the guy can play, without going overboard with fretboard masturbation.
The intro is great, the drums sound REALLY good. I have really yet to hear a lead sound as equally as good too in the MP3 clinic. Overall good arrangement, good production, and the real "downer" of the song is you can sing along with it.
There's plenty of ear candy too, that you wouldn't pick up in a car radio either.

Ok.... guess my rep is now ruined!! :cool:

Mix, the thing that irritates me is, these guys are selling records and getting nominated for Grammys for this crap. I'm not claiming to be better than them, or to be able to produce better sounding product (of course, I don't have crack songwriters, session musicians, and studios/engineers/producers at my disposal, either). However, I would be shocked if any of the named members of the group played a single instrument on that track (or most of the tracks on their albums). Looking at their entry on allmusic, they don't write much of their own material (co-write 1-3 songs per album). So, what does that make them? ...a professional singing group, right? Well, if they have to rely on autotune so much, then they really probably aren't very good singers. So, what does that really make them?...three guys with a good marketing team behind them.

It would be like if you autotuned every note of your guitar solos because the bends are all flat and then get some award for being a great guitarist. It's a sham and it sickens me that music production has come to the point where "perfection" in production is preferred over substance.
 
whjr15 said:
Just downloaded the demo, and tried it out for the first time. After randomly turning knobs for about 3 seconds, I now realize how much it is used today.

On a side note, I never knew I had so much hidden vibrato in my voice... and such perfect runs!!!! I never wouldve realized my potential without autotune!!

joking


Got the demo too, NO idea how it worked, but I got some interesting vocoder effects!
 
TelePaul said:
Got the demo too, NO idea how it worked, but I got some interesting vocoder effects!

Haha, yeah me either...absolutely no idea........ But I never knew I could sing so well!! Thanks autotune!! (for 9 more days at least) :cool:
 
It also bears saying that this song was already a hit in the 90's. This version is basically karaoke with autotune. I mean, God damn, was there ANY effort involved? But yes, it is a cool song. :)
 
TravisinFlorida said:
rokket, i came across this and thought you might want to check it out:
I am going to save it so that I can listen when I have speakers. Thanks for thinking of me.

It's funny. I was listening to some of my old stuff, and realized a strange trend in my singing.

When I sing in a "normal" voice, I have problems singing in key. But when I sing in a higher range (I'll post some samples later on, so you get the gyst of what I am trying to convey), I have no problems staying in key. The problem is that when I do sing like that, I get comments like "It sounds like a pitch shift plugin set on the chipmunk setting", which it's not.

I wish I would have kept my AC/DC tribute song up. I will see if I can get it on soundclick again. And True-Eurt has a song that I made for her called "Spank Me", where I sang the same way.
I will see if she will post it.
 
Hi...I posted Rokket's song "Spank Me" at my soundclick for him. Just click on my SpankSHED songs in my signature. :D

Thanks for my song Rokket !! :cool:
 
true-eurt said:
Hi...I posted Rokket's song "Spank Me" at my soundclick for him. Just click on my SpankSHED songs in my signature. :D

Thanks for my song Rokket !! :cool:
Thanks, True!!!!! :D
 
mixmkr said:
I know I am probably talking in disagreement with many on this, but for some reason, I believe I can hear why "life is a highway" by rascal flatts to be a hit. It has many of the ingredients to make it one. Even the autotune sounding effect..and I am not even agreeing that autotune was even used...but probably was. It gives it a character to the vocals that make it sound like nothing you would typically hear in a local live setting. And...I know most in THIS forum would probably say "thank goodness, because it stinks". Overall, the mix, though very pop oriented, is good. The playing is tight, and even the guitar solo shows the guy can play, without going overboard with fretboard masturbation.
The intro is great, the drums sound REALLY good. I have really yet to hear a lead sound as equally as good too in the MP3 clinic. Overall good arrangement, good production, and the real "downer" of the song is you can sing along with it.
There's plenty of ear candy too, that you wouldn't pick up in a car radio either.

Ok.... guess my rep is now ruined!! :cool:

I totally agree with you. I felt guilty about it, but enjoyed the song :p Its very well put together
 
larry_emder said:
I totally agree with you. I felt guilty about it, but enjoyed the song :p Its very well put together
Thank the AE and the producer. I've heard them live on CMT. They are pretty sorry live.
A lot of new bands that sound pretty good on CD suck ass live. It's mainly because of auto tune, I feel. If the singer can't carry a tune in a bucket, you need to dump him and find someone who can. It's destroying a good live show when the singer comes out sounding like he's close mic'ing cats fighting in a bag.
 
Rokket said:
I am going to save it so that I can listen when I have speakers. Thanks for thinking of me.

It's funny. I was listening to some of my old stuff, and realized a strange trend in my singing.

When I sing in a "normal" voice, I have problems singing in key. But when I sing in a higher range (I'll post some samples later on, so you get the gyst of what I am trying to convey), I have no problems staying in key. The problem is that when I do sing like that, I get comments like "It sounds like a pitch shift plugin set on the chipmunk setting", which it's not.

If you can keep your voice in pitch while singing something really simple using your normal voice, which do you think you would like better? The normal version or high pitched version? You should'nt fear singing out of key. I sounded like a wounded dog for a good while before I started to hit the right notes pretty regularly. I could be wrong Rokket (I hope I'm not and please feel free to call me a fucktard if I am :eek: ) but from the few recordings of yours that I've heard, your vocals sound forced. I think when you sing high, you're keeping your voice in the range that makes it easy for you to hit the right notes but at the same time, you're sacrificing your natural voice. Like I said, I could be wrong and if I am, I apologize ahead of time.

The best advice anyone has ever given me was to just try to sound like me..........and relax. I think that was probably the best advice anyone has given me on anything. Period.

If you think a voice coach will help you get to where you want to be, I would'nt hesitate man. I had a guy that helped me get on the right path. He was just some old guy that hung out at the beach playing Beatles tunes all day. He made (forced) me to sing with him one day and realised that I could'nt sing for shit. :D He told me to play some notes on the guitar while trying to copy them with my voice (the song melody) and made me sing loud. After a few times playing with him, he would stop singing in the middle of a song and make me do it alone while he kind of coached me along "louder", "higher", "relax, you look like your taking a shit".....stuff like that.......cool old guy. :D
 
TravisinFlorida said:
If you can keep your voice in pitch while singing something really simple using your normal voice, which do you think you would like better? The normal version or high pitched version? You should'nt fear singing out of key. I sounded like a wounded dog for a good while before I started to hit the right notes pretty regularly. I could be wrong Rokket (I hope I'm not and please feel free to call me a fucktard if I am :eek: ) but from the few recordings of yours that I've heard, your vocals sound forced. I think when you sing high, you're keeping your voice in the range that makes it easy for you to hit the right notes but at the same time, you're sacrificing your natural voice. Like I said, I could be wrong and if I am, I apologize ahead of time.

The best advice anyone has ever given me was to just try to sound like me..........and relax. I think that was probably the best advice anyone has given me on anything. Period.

If you think a voice coach will help you get to where you want to be, I would'nt hesitate man. I had a guy that helped me get on the right path. He was just some old guy that hung out at the beach playing Beatles tunes all day. He made (forced) me to sing with him one day and realised that I could'nt sing for shit. :D He told me to play some notes on the guitar while trying to copy them with my voice (the song melody) and made me sing loud. After a few times playing with him, he would stop singing in the middle of a song and make me do it alone while he kind of coached me along "louder", "higher", "relax, you look like your taking a shit".....stuff like that.......cool old guy. :D
To be honest, I want to be able to sing in both ranges. Singing higher does seem more natural, but that's probably because of what I was listening to when I first started trying to sing: Judas Priest, Guns-n-Roses, AC/DC with Bon Scott. I was trying to emulate them, not realizing the natural talent someone like Rob Halford has, and thinking that if I kept at it, I could do it to. I've been told before that it seemed like I was forcing it.

I think I will try your method until I can get the time to see a coach.
 
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