As Good As A Neumann But Cheaper

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bunyip -- when will you start realizing that J&K Feilo as a business is pretty much DONE, due to a satisfied customer" who made a complete ass of himself and the company.

You posted the pic of the mic interior yourself on the other thread: there's NO modification and nothing but a 20 cent Chinese board in it. You are such a scam! Noboy on this board will ever even think about buying the Feilo mics. What kind of marketing strategy do you have?? I you had been honest you might have been able to sell some of your mics for maybe a little less than $100. By trying to convice us with NO arguments that the mics are worth more than 800 buxx you pretty much ruined your business. Sorry to break you the news, dude.
 
c7sus said:
Like I said, try Harmony Central. The guys here are hip to Ebay spammers.
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What's the ill feeling toward HC??? The recording forum over there does draw some very knowledgeable people. Of course, Blue Bear and Fletcher post there as well as here.

Steve
www.mojopie.com
 
I think it is pretty obvious that bunyip is copying the same ploy that was put upon the industry regarding the SP C1 mic and its supposed similarity to the U87 mic. Which, by the way, are not even remotely close. But hey, a few big names throw out a claim, everyone believes.

Now this would have worked had he gotten someone like Pete Leoni or Ted Perlman to make the claim, as they did for the C1.

Not a lot of original thinking here. If he was really smart he would have picked some other mic with legendary status that few newbies would have access to, such as the U47 or some other rare mic. Then he should have gotten some artist or tech to make a comment like, “We tested this up against the U47 and no one could tell the difference". Voila! Instant credibility.

My take, is that he bought a bunch of these at too high a price and is trying to recoup his cost afterwhich we will never hear from him again.
 
Yep, one of those Ebay barrons no doubt. Thought he was going to make a fortune and now he's gettin screwed. Not sure why anyone would want to buy a $100 for $700 from a non-existant company when you can get the same $100 mic for $89 from a reputable(maybe) at least known company. It has been entertaining though.
 
For those who maybe interested, these are the pcb's from the HA101 and a Cascade M20, courtesy of bunyip and Flatpicker.

I will leave it up to the individual to decide whether to slight differences between them constitute a modification which justifies both the claims and inflated price. Remeber that $600 Aust is approx equal to $400US.

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BTW.........the Cascade pcb is the larger of the images and the roll off switch is mounted on the mic casing of the Cascade, hence it's abscence from the pcb.

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Unless I'm missing something they pulled 2 capacitors and changed 'cap type' [and perhaps value] on 4 more... could make a difference... might even make a $400 difference [not bloody likely, but it might]
 
Yep, and even then I can't be sure that there are that many changes. Thing is, that there is no guarantee that cap types don't change during production, depending on what is available at the time.

Just for the hell of it, here is one of the pcb's from an Apex 430............and going on appearances in the full size pic, it is a much better quality build pcb.

Fletcher, frankly I don't know why you are even bothering with these guys.

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Fletcher said:
Unless I'm missing something they pulled 2 capacitors and changed 'cap type' [and perhaps value] on 4 more... could make a difference... might even make a $400 difference [not bloody likely, but it might]
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I'm guessing no more than +/- $1.00 either way. I've learned from very reliable sources that parts for these mics cost roughly $10 in US funds, including the diaphragm!:eek:
 
ausrock said:
For those who maybe interested, these are the pcb's from the HA101 and a Cascade M20, courtesy of bunyip and Flatpicker.

I will leave it up to the individual to decide whether to slight differences between them constitute a modification which justifies both the claims and inflated price. Remeber that $600 Aust is approx equal to $400US.

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The auction had a BUY NOW of $699 US not Aust
 
Jesus H Christmas............I didn't even pick that.

Well that $699US is approx $1040Aust., which makes it even worse. I'm surprised these guys had their hands off their collective dicks long enough to even type a message in here:D .

FUCK...............that is absolutely hilarious. I mean I can buy a U87 in good condition for not a huge amount more than that if I wanted to. These guys really do need a major reality check.

:D :D :D
 
Can't believe this thread is still going,

Oh well at least its Saturday and Tampa's fairly quiet again.

Great fireworks here last night.
 
Flatpicker said:
I'm guessing no more than +/- $1.00 either way. I've learned from very reliable sources that parts for these mics cost roughly $10 in US funds, including the diaphragm!:eek:
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The "cost of parts" has little to do with the cost of a modification... it's the time spent to design the modification that 'costs'... the cost is only warranted if the difference in the audio is something that is deemed a vast improvement... other than that it's just masturbation.
 
David Artis said:
Oh well at least its Saturday and Tampa's fairly quiet again.

Great fireworks here last night.
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You talking about the D'rays come from behind win over Chicago last night?
 
Fletcher said:
The "cost of parts" has little to do with the cost of a modification... it's the time spent to design the modification that 'costs'...
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Yeah, but since all these companies have been selling the same design for numerous years, I figure the R&D was paid for long, long ago.

It looks like the M20’s worth more as far as parts go. The HA-101 has one cap in place of C6 and C7 (“we don’t need no stinkin’ low-cut switch, so let’s save $0.20 per mic!” Funny though they left the switch on the board. I guess it cost too much to have it removed…), C8 is missing (we don’t need no stinkin’ filter cap on the capsule’s polarization voltage, so let’s save $0.39 per mic!). For C3 they’re using a mono cap where the M20 has a film cap. If they were using a type COG mono, it would maybe outclass the film cap, but I’ll bet it’s the cheapo Z5U version which is cheaper than the film… C10 and C11 appear to be multi-layer ceramic caps which may or may not be a slight improvement over the M20’s film caps, again depending on the type. That’s about all I see which amounts to what… about an hour's worth of R&D time?

$699US – What a Rip!!!! :mad:
Oh… it must have a Neumann Capsule and custom transformer!:eek: :D
 
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Middleman said:
I think it is pretty obvious that bunyip is copying the same ploy that was put upon the industry regarding the SP C1 mic and its supposed similarity to the U87 mic. Which, by the way, are not even remotely close. But hey, a few big names throw out a claim, everyone believes.

Now this would have worked had he gotten someone like Pete Leoni or Ted Perlman to make the claim, as they did for the C1.
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Here's my favorite take on the ludicrous C1 sounds like a U87 claim:

"I have two C1s. They sound NOTHING like a U87. They don't have the low mid bump, they have a more scooped midrange, and they have a shimmer thing going on in the high end. They are fine mics, but when I hear people say they sound like an 87 I quickly note to myself NEVER to work with them because their ears simply cannot work after making such an absurd comment." -- LS

Steve
www.mojopie.com
 
THANK YOU DUDE!

hey bunyip,

honestly, let me thank you for this incredible thread.
I almost fell off my chair.
great entertainment!

people actually start to foward each other the URL of this thread having a good laugh.

please do carry on!

cheers,


michael
 
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