Artist and their Beef!!

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Ok i just heard 50 Cent is Beefin with Dr. Dre cause he produced for Game..

Now I think this sh!t is goin to far..

how do you feel as an producer about the beef with artist beefin with other artist..if you just tryin to make records and make money?

I feel noone should be threaten about what the do..when the producing records..its its beef between the artist leave it at that...dont bring the producer into the mix unless he said something..music industry is a business and whoever got the money to pay for the beats will get the beats period..
 
bknot1 said:
Ok i just heard 50 Cent is Beefin with Dr. Dre cause he produced for Game...
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Shit, that sounds like 50 gettin' a big head and bitin' the hand that feeds him. I think Dre and Em made 50 what he is...and with the same stroke they could break him too. I mean Dre and Em both have a huge following that listen to 50. 50 has some of his own following but not much in my opinion. Me personally, I think Game's a better lyricist than 50. 50 just has a strong marketing team that can make shit happen.

The Get Rich or Die Tryin' movie is only being done to help boost sales on new product. It worked for Em and it'll probably work for 50. Shit, I'll go see it but I'm not going to take it as truth...just entertainment. If Aftermath/Shady/Interscope keep putting out movies trying to pass them off as documentaries, they'll go the way of No Limit Films where you know what the shit is going to be about and that'll be played out.

Fie.
 
so true...this last album 50 did Dre only produced 2 tracks "Outta Control" and "Guns Come Out" the 1st one he produced 4...we all know he is not goin to say anything about Em cause in reality he is sign to Shady Records..which are distributed through Aftermath and Interscope...

i feel like you said he is gettin the big head if he will he can lock down 1 bigger then life producer from producing who he wants to...
 
But what Dre did produce, he produced masterfully; I have yet to hear a bad Dre beat (minus N.W.A.'s, which were probably good for their time, and California Love's Remix, the original beat for the song was hot)
 
bknot1 said:
so true...this last album 50 did Dre only produced 2 tracks "Outta Control" and "Guns Come Out" the 1st one he produced 4...we all know he is not goin to say anything about Em cause in reality he is sign to Shady Records..which are distributed through Aftermath and Interscope...
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Yeah but that makes even less sense why 50 talkin' shit. It's bad enough to slap the hand that writes your check....it's even worse to slap the hand that gets your product in the stores. All Dre has to do is call up Interscope and scrap 50's next project completely and make 50 get his own distribution deal. In this business one bad album, no matter how much you've made before can kill you because you'll have become used to the lifestyle and don't want the bad rep...case in point - Coolio...His first 2 albums were the shit in my opinion....the 3rd album was shit. He's never recovered from that since then.

Don't get me wrong 50's got dough but I think he'll run through it and invest in some other projects if that ever happened but most people can't do that and have as high of a chance for success.
 
FIEVA ME AND YOU AINT FRIENDS NO MO CUZ YOU POSTED IN BKNOT THREAD AND I DONT GET ALONG WITH BKNOT SO IF YOU GONE POST IN HIS THREAD THEN I AINT GONE POST IN YOUR THREAD NO MORE AND YOU CANT POST IN MY THREAD.

Thats about how silly his dumb ass sound. game will eat his lunch but even if not what type of fool would go against DRE. He really didnt learn shit from snoop and Dre splitting. when they together its magic and when they aint snoops ok. DRE is classic. But even more than that if he wants people to be exclusively his friend he needs to pay for exclusive friends.

Imagin if everybody used the 50 cent theory. There would be only 2 battery companies because the generics are made by duracell and energizer as well. There would be only a couple of restaurants because no one would want to share supppliers. liquor stores would only sell one kind of liquor in one brand name. The jim beam liquor store, the Tony sinclair tanquaray liquor store.

The bottom line is it is a business free market and all. How do you think don king can have two of his own boxers fight each other. 50 done got fat is what has happened. he was hungry on get rich or die trying. now he is just shaming the game to make sales. he aint true to hiphop he just true to whatever to make sales. This is the exact same reason why i will download his hit for free off the net only. But I will go and buy artist like mos def because they actually care about hiphop.

If you have a problem with your producer then keep it in your studio. If you dont want to work with somebody then dont for whatever reason. If its the wrong decision life will teach you and if its the right one life will reassure. If they put as much attention to there music as they do to beefs and bullshit they might find that the beefs are not as important as what they are capable of doing.

MY BAD GOT LONG WINDED

and for those who didint get it i dont actually have a beef with bknot or fieva
 
LOOL i just find it real damn stupid..he goin to get mad cause dre is goin to be on a song with game..and hes mad cause he goin to do that when their are beefin..this is the same reason he was beefin with Fat Joe and Jada cause they did a song with Ja Rule..

he is goin to hit the bottom hard real soon in my eyes...next he will be sayin he isnt using Scott as his producer cause he produced Lean Back before he produced Candy Shop..anything to say in the lime light..
 
We could fake the funk to make sales though.

Think about it...

LOL....NOT!!!
 
so with him acting a fool how will this affect his course of action


http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/7704
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Storch and Dr. Dre launch label. After producing countless hits, super producer Scott Storch is reportedly ready to launch his imprint under Dre's Aftermath record label. Little is known about the venture, and the company has yet to be named. West Coast rapper Stacy Adams will be one of the artists to sign with the label.
 
here is the 50 cent article
http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/7704
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In this week's Pulse Report, the streets are buzzing about 50 Cent possibly beefing with Dr. Dre, Juelz Santana almost losing his album, Tru Life gettting "bottled," and online gamblers betting on Jay-Z and Beyonce's rumored baby.

1. 50 to feud with Dre. Earlier this week, SOHH.com reported that The Game plans on releasing the follow-up to The Documentary, Doctor's Advocate in April 2006. Chuck Taylor revealed that Dre, and others, were slated to contribute tracks to the LP. The Compton emcee has also been promising more Dre collabos in interviews and a recent 106 & Park appearance. Meanwhile, Fif contradicted Game's comments - stating he and the good doctor will become foes if he chooses to produce for Game.

How he gon mess with him That means me and Dre got beef. - 50 Cent"I'll definitely put it [the Game album] on sale for $16.99 if he [Game] comes up with something good. Matter of fact, Dre can go ahead and pick the record, but to my knowledge neither me or Dr. Dre is working on Game's next album. He'll have to go create it from somewhere else," Fiddy told U.K. DJ Tim Westwood during an interview with Radio 1. "How [Dre] gon mess with him? That means me and Dre got beef. I think everybody sees my pattern. If I have a problem with Ja [Rule] and you stand next to Ja [and] try to help him, then me and you got problems. That's how me and Joe and Jada got our little issues."

50 also had a few words for Samuel L. Jackson. The critically acclaimed actor turned down a part in Fiddy's semi-autobiographical flick, Get Rich Or Die Trying. "I don't even see where Samuel fits into my life story anyway, unless he plays one of the crackheads," the Queens rapper told New York's Daily News. "He was a crackhead originally, right? So I come from being a rapper, and he comes from being a crackhead."
 
Shit if Dre and Storch come together....they can't be stopped. Being Dre, I would think that would be a smart move....why try to beat your closest competition when you can just get him to work with you instead. Dre's a legend, Storch could be but hasn't put in enough time yet.

Does anyone notice that there don't seem to be any classic rap songs anymore....just filler bullshit? I mean back in the 90's you had a lot of classic songs that they still bump today and get good vibe. Now it just all seems the same.

Fie.
 
50 is an ass, but he knows what he's doin...

I think 50 wants to get dropped from aftermath...maybe even shady records too. I mean think about it, why would you wanna trick off so much loot on a 3-tier label deal when someone with as much buzz (for right now) as 50 can get a direct deal. You can get more money then...why you think he's doin all this recruiting now (mase, mobb deep, mop (mistake!)) He's tryna do his own shit IMO. Im pretty sure it will backfire tho - there is a right way and a wrong way to do everything and hes only good at the latter. You cant diss DRE..you just cant win. I dont even think 50 can get many more fans, and beefin with rappers that are really better than him (Jadakiss and Nas only, IMO) is just gonna take away from his sales.
 
Fieva said:
Shit if Dre and Storch come together....they can't be stopped. Being Dre, I would think that would be a smart move....why try to beat your closest competition when you can just get him to work with you instead. Dre's a legend, Storch could be but hasn't put in enough time yet.

Does anyone notice that there don't seem to be any classic rap songs anymore....just filler bullshit? I mean back in the 90's you had a lot of classic songs that they still bump today and get good vibe. Now it just all seems the same.

Fie.
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LOL..its funny you said this..cause if i recall..i think he use to be a producer in Dr Dre team of producers..i have to find the article..its one of those i wasnt gettin paid so it was time for me to create my own name instead of ghost producing..i gotta find the article..
 
crunkthanamug said:
I think 50 wants to get dropped from aftermath...maybe even shady records too. I mean think about it, why would you wanna trick off so much loot on a 3-tier label deal when someone with as much buzz (for right now) as 50 can get a direct deal. You can get more money then...why you think he's doin all this recruiting now (mase, mobb deep, mop (mistake!)) He's tryna do his own shit IMO. Im pretty sure it will backfire tho - there is a right way and a wrong way to do everything and hes only good at the latter. You cant diss DRE..you just cant win. I dont even think 50 can get many more fans, and beefin with rappers that are really better than him (Jadakiss and Nas only, IMO) is just gonna take away from his sales.
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Very good point. And yeah I agree recruiting mop is a big mistake. Mase might even be too, not saying Mase is bad, but his style could get lost in translation because people still identify him with bad boy when it was half ass decent. Look at all the people who've dissed Dre. How many of them are actually making dough...not many. I can understand trying to do your own shit, but I think 50's being a whiny bitch about it when he could just show respect and be a man about it. Shit, Em has all of his acts through Shady so he gets more of a cut...and you would expect Em to be more likely to whine and bitch about it than 50. Shit, I like G-Unit, but I think Lloyd Banks and Young Buck could go as a duo group or solo and still make dough (I think Young Buck might do that eventually). Those two have the most talent in the group IMHO. You wanna go up against Nas? Be somebody like Jay-Z and you might be ok to do that. 50...please. Jada doesn't get the props that he should but besides those two I think 50's weak as an artist. His beats back him good, but his lyrics aren't where they could be.
 
Mho, i think he is made because the game is lyrically hot but with out a monster producer he can't really do any damage to 50, but if the game's lyrics are fueled by legendary Dre, then it's on for mr Ferrari F50. He doesn't want the Game to have the same leverage as him. Think about it, if jordan and Kareem were to battle on court at the same age of 26 in thier prime, Jordan would probably have the advantage if he wore Nike Air Jordans and Kareem had on Chuck Taylors, but if Nike sponsored Kareem also, then Jordan would probably be very nervous.

Speaking of sneakers, could you imagine if "The Goat Manigult" were to have had Jordans what he would have been doing? The dude reportedly had a 52" vertical jump, he would dunk twice before landing, he would WALK on your forehead while he was ascending to the goal, he would grab money from the very top of a back board which i think is about 14 feet up. and all of this was accomplished with Converse All Stars AKA Chuck Taylors.
 
Storch came up under Dre. He produced quite a bit of "The Chronic: 2001" and has been contributing to almost all of Dre's artists since the late 90's. He's done some work for Eminem as well. But Dre took all the credit.

Oh, and per the topic. 50 is an idiot if he thinks he can succeed without Dre. If he goes against Dre, he'll lose Em. Em has always said the Dre saved his life, and Em will always be loyal to Dre.

50 without Em and Dre, is just another weak rapper on another copy-cat beat.
 
Change of POETS said:
Storch came up under Dre. He produced quite a bit of "The Chronic: 2001" and has been contributing to almost all of Dre's artists since the late 90's. He's done some work for Eminem as well. But Dre took all the credit.

Oh, and per the topic. 50 is an idiot if he thinks he can succeed without Dre. If he goes against Dre, he'll lose Em. Em has always said the Dre saved his life, and Em will always be loyal to Dre.

50 without Em and Dre, is just another weak rapper on another copy-cat beat.
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mho 50 even with Em and Dre is just another weak rapper on another copycat beat. I think 50 has made some smart business decisions and some bad business decisions. I think he lets his pride and ego get in the way when the bad business happens. Like I said before bad enough to bite the hand that feeds you, but don't go bite the hand that brings the money to pay for the food that the hand feeding you passes over.

I doubt that Em and Dre would part ways or have intense drama. Seems like they have a good understanding of how each other works. Personally, I still think Dre either gives the go ahead or the red light on a lot of Em's business decisions.

As far as Scott Storch goes...got nothin' bad to say about him....he makes his beats and leaves it at that for the most part. When the worst drama you could have is beef with Lil' Jon then you're not doin' too bad. Didn't know that he did a lot of the more current Aftermath work, but it would make sense though.
 
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