Since all you have are insults I am now officially putting you on my Ignore list.
And you thought your face wouldn't get red. There's not an insult in the entire bunch of quotes given, Ethan, they are only observations of fact. If you find it insulting that someone is calling you on the facts, you had better toughen up, because I am going easy on you compared to what some real professionals in info theory will do. You are presenting bad science and pseudoscience and representing it as scientific. That's not an insult, that a observational fact.
It's obvious you never even listened to my files or to the noise. I have shown to my own satisfaction that extremely soft artifacts are inaudible.
I didn't listen to all the files, but I did listen to thw two MAW ones. I also read and re-read your article several times before I even hit reply, because I wanted to make sure I didn't misuderstand what you were trying to say.
You have taken great pains to try and show expirimentally that distortion and noise below certain percentages of the signal level are inaudible. Fine. What you have not done is to complete the chain of evidence back to your accusee and show that the kin dof noise and distortion you are referring to are actually what reslts, and all that results, from the digital symptioms your are talking about. This paper claims to be talking about jitter. Yet you don't do a single thing to explain what the analog artifacts of digital jitter actually are, or how, by your reasoningthey actually get there.
What you don't understand is that this is KEY INFORMATION, and that without it, your paper says absolutely nothing about jitter. That's not a personal insult, Ethan, that's a scientific challenge.
And then when you throw in erroneous information such as the size of the digital jitter shift in time is converted to an analog wave with a frequency equivalent to the size of the offset - which is exactly what you're saying when you claim that a nanosecond of jitter equals a GHz of analog frequency - you are throwing in false information. That's not an insult, that's a scientific answer.
Then when you compound that falsehood with a claim that it's the sidebands of that GHz signal that are audible, and that they manifest themselves as low-level, white-weighted noise, my reply to that was that to ask you to provide the science - even on a non-technical, non mathematicla explanatory level - that actually backed up that extreme claim. You found such a request to be "insulting".
From the begining of this thread, Ethan, I have been trying to explain to you what you require to truely present your case and truely do so in the name of good science. I have given you both the leads and the opportunity to follow them, and said that if you were able to follow through, you'd have a case.
The problem is, you can't do so. I know you can't do so because I can see the bad science in your paper. That's not an insult, that's a truth.
The core of your position is that <0.1% harmonic distortion levels are inaudible. I wouldn't put a 100%, every time, sureity on that, but yeah, I'd mostly agree with that as being true. I think just about everybody else except a few crazed golden ear audiophiles would agree to that too. That's not the issue. That's old news that goes back at least 30 years.
The problem comes in when you extrapolate that basic premise to the dismissal of various types of digital artifacting. You make three assumptive mistakes here: first, that you lump all those types of artifacting together as one common group, second that the only kind of distortions that they introduce on the analog reconstruction are in the form of <0.1% distortions, and third, that without making that connection, that you are advancing the interest of science and scientific understanding - as you yourself say is your intent.
Those assumptions are wrong. You are making leaps of logic based upon a lack of understanding of how the D/A process actually works. Which is why I asked you to try to explain that process as you understood it. You won't, and I have scientific reason to believe i's because you can't, because you are actually in over your head. That's not an insult, Ethan. That is an observation based upon my understanding of the science. If you think I'm wrong, then let's see your science. Lets see you complete the chain of reasoning from digital event to analog artifact.
If you believe there are situations where very soft artifacts are audible, the burden of proof is on you to explain why, and to post audio examples proving your point.
Asked and answered n the last paragraph. That is not the point of contention here.
No, Ethan, you are the one who has put forward the proposition with your paper, the burden is on you to prove it, and that proof requires completing the whole chain of reasoning, not just half of it.
Otherwise this will go like the other Dither thread where by the end you were begging the OP to lock the thread because you had nothing of substance to refute my points, only insults.
I asked for the thread to lock, Ethan, because you were making an ass of yourself, and you just wouldn't stop, even after talking about things like "analog jitter" and other such unicorns, just like you are here. I pleaded with you to stop for your own good.
Believe it or not Ethan, I don't dislike you, at least I didn't at the time. But the fact is, anytime anyone refutes any of your claims, or asks you to explain them further, or provides counter-science, you take it as an insult. That, combined with the obvious unicorns like "analog jitter" and "GHz-band analog artifacts", and having the audacity to label it as "science", it becomes hard for those of us who see the emperors clothes for what they are to just let you be.
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