anything else that works similar to har-bal?

[djclueveli]

is there any other software that can do what har-bal does or even better?

 

[MadAudio]

Oh, boy.

Har-Bal is quite reviled by a lot of people here. Do a search, there have been a lot of posts about it.

 

[flatfinger]

Voxengo curve eq, read here;

http://www.eqmag.com/story.asp?storycode=9904

 

[bblackwood]

Just use your ears...

 

[masteringhouse]

Ditto Brad.

The problem with folks starting out in this field is lack of good ear traning. You need to be working at this a few years before you can distinguish frequencies and name them from just listening. Rather than spending money on a "silver bullet" I would recommend getting something like Dave Moulton's Golden ears CDs and woodshedding a while. One problem with products like this, as well as spectral analyzers is that they dont' sharpen your listening skills and can potenially get you in a bad habit of looking rather than listening.

Use analyzers to reinforce what you hear rather than the other way around when you're starting out. For example, first try to name a problem frequency, try to sweep a parametric EQ around that freq to hone it, then see what it does on an analyzer. Often times you are not going to see much with a 1 or 2 db change in EQ but it makes a major difference in the overall sound.

 

[Massive Master]

anything else that works similar to har-bal?

Geez, I hope not.

 

[flatfinger]

9 out of ten ME's agree, hairball sucks!!!!

 

[flatfinger]

One problem with products like this, as well as spectral analyzers is that they dont' sharpen your listening skills and can potenially get you in a bad habit of looking rather than listening.

Use analyzers to reinforce what you hear rather than the other way around when you're starting out.

Good points!!

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

9 out of ten ME's agree, hairball sucks!!!!

And the 10th "ME" is a creative writing major in college that uses his dorm room Mac and a cracked copy of Hair Ball as his "mastering studio", and then opens up a website and charges pizza and beer money to "master" your mixes.

G.

 

[bblackwood]

And the 10th "ME" is a creative writing major in college that uses his Mom's Dell with a pair of headphones and a cracked copy of Hair Ball as his "mastering studio", and then opens up a website and charges pizza and beer money to "master" your mixes.

FIFY...

hehe

 

[Massive Master]

The sad part about HairBall is that if it was a VST plug, I've heard worse sounding EQ's. It'd be really convenient as a VST or DX.

As a stand-alone, it's relatively worthless (IMO/E).

 

[danny.guitar]

I like the idea of it having an EQ where the volume is adjusted automatically, so you only hear the EQ changes and not volume changes too.

Is there an EQ plug out there that does that?

I have pretty shitty ears so an EQ like that would help.

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

And the 10th "ME" is a creative writing major in college that uses his Mom's Dell with a pair of headphones and a cracked copy of Hair Ball as his "mastering studio", and then opens up a website and charges pizza and beer money to "master" your mixes.

FIFY...

hehe

LOL.

Hmmm...I always thought the Dell was Dad's and the Gateway was Mom's...

Could be a regional thing.



G.

 

[masteringhouse]

LOL.

Hmmm...I always thought the Dell was Dad's and the Gateway was Mom's...

Could be a regional thing.



G.

My Mom uses analog.

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

My Mom uses analog.

Your mom is HOT!

G.

 

[masteringhouse]

Your mom is HOT!

G.

Well, my Mom is in her late eighties. Let's just say she's "old school".

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Well, my Mom is in her late eighties. Let's just say she's "old school".

My 85-yr-old mother is from the same school, I think. Almost pre-analog.

G.

 

[flatfinger]

yer mom uses a Victrola!!!!!

Mine has a rat shack TRS-80!

 

[iqi616]

...Rather than spending money on a "silver bullet" I would recommend getting something like Dave Moulton's Golden ears CDs and woodshedding a while.

Are those CDs worth the money then? Anyone around hear actually got the set and found them useful?

 

[mikew]

I'm also curious if they help tone your ear!

Man, I also use a Dell computer... my feeling are hurt by this post. I was mixing with the Dell speakers, but after reading the "Sub 400 monitor" thread I decided to get some Wharfs... Hope they work out. Thanks!

- Mike