Anyone wanna help me master this??

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Sorry dude... I listened to your cut... IMO, that tune has far more mixing problems than can be fixed via mastering...

Mastering is the process by which you polish an already good-sounding mix... if the mix is already behind the 8-ball, mastering isn't going to be of much help.
(ie, you can't polish a turd...)

Brush up on mixing techniques (book suggestion - David Gibson's The Art Of Mixing, or Bobby Owsinski's The Mixing Engineer's Handbook), dig up your tracks, and start over at the mixing board.......

Bruce
 
I'd say it has too many recording problems to be a good mix.
 
Not trying to pick on ya, BUT.......

One other thing... just checked your website... THAT is pretty annoying.. repetitive noise as I'm trying to read your band bios was intolerable - I gave up....

I'd re-think some of your web design too!
 
Help!!

Do you have any recommendations as to what to do? I am really new to this, hence I don't really know much, I'm just trying to get something done to put onto a CD, if I could I would get someone else to mix and master it but I just can't afford it!

I know it's asking a lot, but can you give me a few pointers as to what to do? If necissary (or however you spell it) I would post all of the individual tracks for you to listen to.

I do really need help, I know this is not the best way to actually do this sort of stuff, but to tell the truth I don't want to learn to be an audio engineer or anything like that, I just want to have in my hands a decent enough sounding demo CD, I'm not too bothered as to who has mixed it, me, some other guy or even a dog as long as it sounds OK! I see how frustrating this stuff can be now as I'm sure that it is possible to make it sound a lot better.

Do you know anyone that might, just might be willing to be a very very very nice person and actually (I know it's asking a LOT) mix and master our 4 track demo?? Any and I mean ANY help is much appreciated, I am in desperate need of it, I've got about 20 people (some quite important) asking for a copy of our demo and there is no way that I am sending something as un professional as that. LMAO!

Thanks in Advance
Simon Wall
Malevolus
www.malevolus.com (Shit!! I was meant to put a sound control on that ages ago, thanks for reminding me, now I CAN do that! oh yeah, what do you think of the floating in mid air thing? It's meant to stop people resizing the window and fucking up the graphics)
 
FAO Dolemite

Dolemite, what exactly do you mean? It's very hard for me to record things due to living a long way away from the other members of the band, especially the drummer. I definatly agree that the drums are very badly recorded, I used something like 4 SM58's, but had to mix them down through my Behringer Mx 802A mixer into my PC soundcard..

Thanks
Simon
 
Your Studio!

Wish we could have done at in a proper studio (like yours!). Just had a look at your website, I know that it would not be possible for us to fly over to you to use this, but just a suggestion, have you ever thought about doing somthing like off peak, or evenings when it's cheaper or something like that, I've heard of a few studios doing that in the UK and they seem to have really cheap prices, I guess not as good results though. Anyway thats a nice setup you've got there, got an samples of stuff you've had recorded there? It would be interesting to see well listen to!

Cheers
Simon
 
Now Flash is buggered!!

Ahhhhh! I'm having a really bad day!! Flash 5 just crashed on my computer whilst I was trying to sort out the noise on our website!! Ahhhhhhh! Whatever next! LMAO
 
Simon,

If you do want to cut your demo DIY, then you really HAVE TO learn a thing or two about mixing... there's no way around that, and that means research... reading, looking at web resources... this site here is FULL of great info... sonusman did an excellent thread on mixing....... (you'll have to find it...)

If you don't want to DIY, then you have to hire a studio to do it for you.... I can certainly accommodate you for a good rate, but you may want to look in your local area first, for convenience.

BTW, here's a sample of my mixing work: soundclip

As far as your web-site -- while your graphics are cool, I honestly hate pop-up windows or any website that either forces me to change my browser config, tries to take over my screen, or forces sound-clips down my throat! ;)

Cheers,
Bruce
 
yeah

Yeah, I suppose so, do you know any links to decent website about mixing? It will be too hard for us to re-record the whole thing, I'm sure something good can come from the tracks is mixed well.

I listened to that sample, although not my kind of music I have to say it has been very well produced! Well done!

I think you might be a bit far away for us to come to your studio, or did you mean mix it etc? If so would I have to send you a CD with the original tracks on in wav format? I guess that mp3's wouldn't be good enough quality and I'd be ages uploading them as wavs!!! And what would you charge for that? (If possible could u have an estimate in GBP, I would pay in Dollars, but it's easier for me to understand if I have in in £'s!) I know it's hard to tell how long it will take etc, but a rough guide for 4 tracks, roughly 3-4 mins each.

Right the website, I can't think of any other way of presenting the site, it is in 5 frames which have to be aligned properly. I could use tables for the background and menu etc, but I would still need a frame in the middle, and I hate IFrames, or floating frames. As for the sound! Thats my mistake, do you think I should completely get rid of it? That would be easiest! or add a control? I think the first is the best bet. I was in a hurry to get the site up, being pressured from everyone! If you can think of a way of setting it up so the resolution can't be change I would be more than happy to implement it, I was looking for a solution for ages and that was my best idea, I kinda like the way it just sits there in the middle of the screen, and it's not like I have included a javascipt to close the window or anything like annoying adverts etc.



Cheers
Simon
 
Simon... let's take this off-site....

Send me an email (email addy on my website)... we can definitely work something out to get you fixed up at a reasonable rate...

Bruce
 
You get it?

Did you get the email? I did it via my web based syustem so I'm not sure if it worked? If not email here, recedo@eurobell.co.uk or reply to this post

cheers
simon
 
Bruce,

I just re-read Ed's "mixing thread" and bumped it back to the top......before I had read this thread here. Coincidence?????

Simon......good luck.



:cool:
 
Cheers

Yeah, I had a look at that earlier and am again now as I saw it at the top. Oh well, be getting my hands dirty over the next few days. If I don't come back I've probably killed myself trying to make our songs sound even the slightest bit OK!!

Cheers People!!

Simon

PS I'm new here, who is ED? Is he a pro engineer or something? He seems like one to me!!
 
Re: Cheers

recedo said:
If I don't come back I've probably killed myself trying to make our songs sound even the slightest bit OK!!
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Remind me to cry about that. ;)
 
Better do

OK, can someone remind him please! Well thanks for the thought!

You better cry, because if you don't I will haunt you for the rest of your life, if I could figure out how to do that! I have problems with everything else!

Simon
 
QUOTE:........"PS I'm new here, who is ED? Is he a pro engineer or something? He seems like one to me!!"

You didn't have a problem with that........lol. You are correct.

:cool:
 
recedo, I'm sure you're being taken care of and you are in good hands but here's some advice from non-pro homewreaker newbie.

1) Drums way too loud. The cymbals are predominate in the mix. The cymbals sound "iced over" like they're clipping.

2) The guitar tone is weak and the EQ is wrong. I'm sure it sounds good live but it wasn't captured right on the recording. The guitar might be clipping too.

3) The bass is not defined at all.

4) Vocals sound like it's clipping sometimes.

5) The whole mix clips. It's turned up too high.

"but to tell the truth I don't want to learn to be an audio engineer or anything like that, I just want to have in my hands a decent enough sounding demo CD"

IMHO you should make it your business. All this hard work left up to someone else? Your passion needs to be watched by all you guys in the band at every step. Every detail is important at this stage in your careers until you are under the guidance of a good A&R guy. Even then, keep your nose in everything he does until you can trust him.

BTW, Blue Bear is absolutely right about EVERYTHING he said about your website.
 
Thanks

Thanks for your help, when I said that it's not really what I meant, well sort of, it sounded a bit rude, or blunt or whatever. What I meant really was that I don't really want to spend hours apon hours learning how to actually do it all myself, unless I can't help it! I would prefer to know a bit about it and just speak to someone who knows a bit more about it, I realise that that would be too much to ask for someone in my money situation.

Thanks for your help, The guitar sounded a lot better on the original recording before I touched it! I think I mucked up the drums too, the whole thing was a LOT quieter before I got my hands on it!!

and for the website:

Right the website, I can't think of any other way of presenting the site, it is in 5 frames which have to be aligned properly. I could use tables for the background and menu etc, but I would still need a frame in the middle, and I hate IFrames, or floating frames. As for the sound! Thats my mistake, do you think I should completely get rid of it? That would be easiest! or add a control? I think the first is the best bet. I was in a hurry to get the site up, being pressured from everyone! If you can think of a way of setting it up so the resolution can't be change I would be more than happy to implement it, I was looking for a solution for ages and that was my best idea, I kinda like the way it just sits there in the middle of the screen, and it's not like I have included a javascipt to close the window or anything like annoying adverts etc. Also the sound I am in the process of sorting out, which is the main problem I think the site has! I am also still waiting on someone to give me some proper SRL pictures of us he took, all the pics are over a year old (nearly 2!).

I got the idea about a pop up window from a lot of other bands I have seen, and well I sort of used it as a last resort because there was no way I could keep all the bars aligned!

Oh well, I can at least say more about my webdesigning skills, I have a bit of qualification in that! Did you see the ASP members section? Although I did not completely program that part I did make a lot of modifications, i.e userlist and messaging system!

Thanks again
Simon
 
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