Anyone Remeber that Van Halen.....

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fucking hot ass guitar sound!! "Beautiful Girls" fucking rocks! All you brothers wondering what a "good guitar sound" is, thats it!
 
oK, I just saw Eddie and the crew the other night. It was there 2nd show of the tour. The last time I saw them was back in '79 (I believe). Overall, it was a fantastic show. Loud, brutal rock and roll, just the way it should be.

Please don't misunderstand this statement, but Eddie didn't seem quite as good as he used to be. He seemed to take some short cuts in some of his riffs. Where he used to get in a 30 note riff, he seem to get only 10. Like I said though, don't misunderstand, he is still fantastic and if you get the chance, go see them.

Sammy was just as energentic as usual. Alex did one hell of a drum solo and didn't miss a beat all night. Mikie just pounded the bass and did an excellent job singing backup. And Eddie just was having a great time and sounded as awsome as ever. Maybe a little slow at times, but he can still shred.

Don't miss the show!!
 
juststartingout said:
And Eddie just was having a great time and sounded as awsome as ever.

It's only natural that reflexs slow as one ages. Still, EVH has survived where other guitar heros are forgotten because he is also an absolutely brilliant rhythm player. If you threw out all of his solos, he's still be considered one of the greats. And I don't even like Van Halen's music . . .
 
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ampd said:
fucking hot ass guitar sound!! "Beautiful Girls" fucking rocks! All you brothers wondering what a "good guitar sound" is, thats it!

Take a nice humbucker equipped strat and plug into a Peavey 5150 and you will sound like EVH. I have a Peavey Transformer amp and it has some kind of 5150 emulation that gives me an EVH sounds nicely....
 
Going to see him in Toronto on July the 3rd. Looking forward to it !
 
juststartingout said:
Still, EVH has survived where other guitar heros are forgotten because he is also an absolutely brilliant rhythm player. If you threw out all of his solos, he's still be considered one of the greats. And I don't even like Van Halen's music . . .

Agreed. His rhythms set him apart from the crowd.

I like his old guitar sound much better than the newer processed sound.

It'll be interesting to see where Ed places on the greatest guitar player list in about 20 years. Most current rock players I talk to don't like him at all. What a shame.
 
He didn't die young enough to ascend to mythical greatness a la Hendrix and SRV. About 1985 would have been perfect. Instead, he's hung around long enough to show his age a bit, and create a body of work so large that it reveals his mortality as a songwriter/ guitar player. You know... sort of like Eric Clapton.

And gvarko... you are insane! His tone on Van Halen 1 and Mean Streets was all about his technique. Even playing through the exact rigs he used on those albums there isn't anybody else on the planet could have sounded like him. Now the later stuff....

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saw them ...

in greensboro on opening night it was a really good show i saw them last in 92 on th F.U.C.K. tour this is by far the better of the two, would be way better for a live DVD... i really only heard one mistake during the encore, he actually got lost on "you really got me"....mike took his bass solo and then they go into "somebody get me a doctor"and mike sorta steals th mic from sammy and does th lead vox, for me that was one of the hi lites of th show at a few songs mike and eddie took verses ....it was really fun and relaxed ,it was like a big party they threw for us, they even signed autographs at times during th show ...the thing that i didn't get was sammy said in an interview that he was gonna do more roth era songs but to my knowledge they only added "unchained" to what i previously remember them doing ,woulda loved to "hear hot for teacher ,or beautiful girls"....glad they're back
 
EVH actually HAS reached mythic preportions. To me Eddie is an extention of the guitar god tradition. Not many people, as a guitarist, are just as famous themselves as their band is...or even MORE famous then their band is. Who do we have?? Hendrix and Eddie...thats IT. Satriani and Vai are soloists and would be nothing had there been no EVH anyway. If you listen to guitar players pre-1978 (the start of the VH era) and then after the difference is enormous. Eddie changed guitar playing as we know it. So he is older and slower...so what...Had Eddie died in 1979, to this day he would still be surpassed by NO ONE!! Yeah sure there are a lot of guys that can cop his licks today...just go to Guitar Center or Sam Ash on a Saturday afternoon...BUT, to be the first to do it and be the innovator...that is special. Eddie will always be top notch in my book!!!
 
Don't get it twisted

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And gvarko... you are insane! His tone on Van Halen 1 and Mean Streets was all about his technique. Even playing through the exact rigs he used on those albums there isn't anybody else on the planet could have sounded like him. Now the later stuff....

I said you would sound like him, not play like him... Perhaps I should rephrase, you will get a "Similar sound" to EVH.. Is that better?

Don't you agree a HB equipped strat through a 5150 will sound more like EVH than an LP through a Marshall? If not than perhaps you are insane....
 
I agree that Eddie had a tremendous, unprecedented impact on popular guitar, but he is nowhere near the mythical proportions of Hendrix. Not only has Hendrix transcended his band, he has transcended himself as a guitar player. He is a public icon recognizable to people of all generations and walks of life. People don't even need to see him with a guitar to know who he is - just a head shot is enough. You can walk into a novelty shop anywhere and find tons of Hendrix merchandise... keychains, posters, stickers, t-shirts, black-lights, insence burners, etc, etc, etc.Same with Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Marilynn Monroe, James Dean, etc.
I don't think that 30 years after his death EVH will have that kind of public awareness, and in all seriousness...I think the reason is because his novelty wore off before he checked out. In 30 years I think you will see a greater SRV legacy than EVH legacy.
It's kind of funny how that works. It's sort of a Star Trek phenominon. You have this enormouns cult following for a 30 year old TV series that was never even that popular during its initial run. Somehow the thing just snowballed.
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The majority of Eddie's tone comes from his fingers... I have seen him play on all kinds of rigs, and it always sounds.... like Eddie....

The first 2 albums only used a good plexi and a humbucker.... All that shit about Variacs etc, was made up... he later admitted it...
 
Aaron Cheney said:
I agree that Eddie had a tremendous, unprecedented impact on popular guitar, but he is nowhere near the mythical proportions of Hendrix. Not only has Hendrix transcended his band, he has transcended himself as a guitar player. He is a public icon recognizable to people of all generations and walks of life. People don't even need to see him with a guitar to know who he is - just a head shot is enough. You can walk into a novelty shop anywhere and find tons of Hendrix merchandise... keychains, posters, stickers, t-shirts, black-lights, insence burners, etc, etc, etc.Same with Kurt Cobain, Jim Morrison, Marilynn Monroe, James Dean, etc.
I don't think that 30 years after his death EVH will have that kind of public awareness, and in all seriousness...I think the reason is because his novelty wore off before he checked out. In 30 years I think you will see a greater SRV legacy than EVH legacy.
It's kind of funny how that works. It's sort of a Star Trek phenominon. You have this enormouns cult following for a 30 year old TV series that was never even that popular during its initial run. Somehow the thing just snowballed.
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You have a very valid point. But, like Hendrix, when you hear Eddie play you instantly know it is Eddie.
 
To quote the FAQ from VHT's website:

17) How can I get the "Brown Sound"?

Step 1) Die and re-incarnate as Eddie.

Step 2) Visit your local Peavey® dealer (must complete step one first).

Step 3) Whatever you do, suppress any impulse to be creative and original.
 
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ampd said:
fucking hot ass guitar sound!! "Beautiful Girls" fucking rocks! All you brothers wondering what a "good guitar sound" is, thats it!
he played with so many gadgets when you seen him by his self he sounded like shit ......from a guitarist for 41 yearss
 
Eddie is in my top 5 of Rock guitar players.
If you try to imitate a guitarplayer and you are confused at their speed or technique, and then fail to imitate a similar technique then you know you have just listened to a genius. And everyone knows that Eddie is probably the hardest guitarplayer to imitate. Hendrix can be easily imitated.

People like Eddie work countless hours on practice and they deserve all merrit for their hardwork. It's like winning an olympic medal on an individual event and a team event.
 
gvarko said:
Take a nice humbucker equipped strat and plug into a Peavey 5150 and you will sound like EVH. I have a Peavey Transformer amp and it has some kind of 5150 emulation that gives me an EVH sounds nicely....


Not even kinda. NO ONE sounds like Eddie, except for Eddie. His sound is all in his hands, and without his hands, you can not sound like Eddie.

I read a story in Guitar Player back in the early eighties by Eddies then guitar tech. Van Halen was tour as a support act for Ted Nugent, and he was so impressed by Eddies tone that he came to sound check and asked to try Eddies rig. He tried it, and then asked what they had left out, because he did not sound like Eddie.

It is all in the hands, and without the hands, you ain't gonna get it. Period.


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Light said:
Not even kinda. NO ONE sounds like Eddie, except for Eddie. His sound is all in his hands, and without his hands, you can not sound like Eddie.

I read a story in Guitar Player back in the early eighties by Eddies then guitar tech. Van Halen was tour as a support act for Ted Nugent, and he was so impressed by Eddies tone that he came to sound check and asked to try Eddies rig. He tried it, and then asked what they had left out, because he did not sound like Eddie.

It is all in the hands, and without the hands, you ain't gonna get it. Period.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral.''
M.K. Gandhi


It's funny how so many people don't understand that. A guy in a music store told me that the Peavy 5150 was the top selling used amp. People bought it to sound like Eddie but they sounded like themselves still so they sold them back to the music store.
 
Now we're talking my language. Eddie is one of my all time favorites. He compleatley changed the way the game is played. I get frustrated when I hear people downplay his impact on guitar (I'm talking to you Purge). Everything I ever wanted to be as a guitar player started from Eddie Van Halen. All of my heroes pulled a lot of their style from Eddie's trick bag and I have nothing but total respect fo the man. Granted there are better players in terms of technique soul etc.. but Eddie made guitar what it is today.

God bless that man.
 
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