anyone familiar with E.V. RE-20?

[bostonfan2]

Hello,
Looking to add another mic in addition to my C-1 for vocals, would this
mic be a good fit for Male Rock vocals?
and would it give me a different color
than my C-1 ? the application is for
studio recording ...thanks Bostonfan2

 

[mixmkr]

yes to all your questions. You will not regret getting this guy.

 

[bostonfan2]

Thanx Mixmakr,
With the E.V. being
a dynamic am i correct in assuming the
sensitivity would be considerably less than the C-1 ? we have a singer with a very strong voice, even when he backs
away from the C-1 during the louder parts there is not enough DB reduction
to avoid using more compression than i would like, iam hoping with a good quaility dynamic we can control the dynamic range more with out the help
of the gear....Thanx.....Bostonfan2

 

[mixsit]

The dynamic range will be virtually the same with either mic but shifted down some with the less sensitive one. The same volume effect could be had by lowering the pad or preamp volume.
One unique feature of the RE20 is it's tone doesn't change much as you back away. (what it is really doing is not giving the proximity bass boost- more like an omni in that respect.)
Wayne

 

[maskedman72]

re 20's kick ass! get it!
it is also great for kick drum.
ive seen them on ebay for $250

 

[sonusman]

I think the difference in handling a vocal like described (or any vocal for that matter) between those two mics is going to be more in high frequency transients than anything else. You will noticed that the RE 20 will have a more "muted" sound on transients above 2KHz compared to a LD condensor. That is about it though. If the singer is overly dynamic, well, they are overly dynamic. How the mic distorts from high SPL in close proximity WILL BE very different, but loud is loud, and quiet is quiet. The type of mic used in this case is not going to solve the problem.

Possibly, the RE 20 will give you a more consistent tonality on the voice if you back the singer away from it for louder passages. While this might help improve things a bit, you are now introducing more ambiance to the mic as the direct>indirect sound ratio has changed. You will hear more of the "room" when the singer backs away. This may or may not be acceptable for the problems it solves, but it is something that you need to consider.

Working with singers that are overly dynamic can be frustrating. It is really best that the singer is singing appropriate dynamically speaking to the music. But when that is not possible, you the engineer get the fun of trying to track that voice and keep somewhat of a consistent tonality on the track. One thing that you might try is to use a LD condensor set in an omni pattern. While this isn't as good as if the singer could just do what they need to do with a less dynamics, it may in fact prove to work out well in the end.

Good luck.

Oh, an RE 20 or 27n/d should be in EVERY studio mic pack! What a great and versatile mic!

Ed

 

[wes480]

i got an re20 for male rock vocals...i wanted a "blander" sound than i was getting from my c1

worked for me.

 

[Dot]

bostonfan2, if you're looking for another mic primarily to use for vocals, I'd be wary about getting an RE20 unless you can try one first. The C1 has you covered for that "colored" "sheen" midrange-bump sound – so the next choice would be something more neutral – and perhaps even brighter.

Neutral mics I'd recommend would be:

AKG 414
Studio Projects B1/B3
Audio Technica AT4033, 4040, 4050
Blue Baby Bottle

 

[bostonfan2]

Thanks to all for the replys, sounds as though this is a quality
mike that will be good to have even if it doesnt solve the problem
Dot i will also look for the others you have suggested as well.

Thanks again, Bostonfan2