Trak
New member
Part of the Reason I switched over to Cakewalk's Sonar 6 and Project5 V2. First they dropped DX support in C4, then gave us the middle finger about the long awaited SX 3.1.2 update.
Well what can I say, Steinberg got my SX3 money... but not another dime from here on out.
Well what can I say, Steinberg got my SX3 money... but not another dime from here on out.
zed32
Re-Attached Member
TravisinFlorida said:
fuck yeah man. wtf do they mean they don't have the resources to update Cubase? thats a fucking joke. Reaper gets updated like every 4 days, and it's just one dude! that sucks for all the loyal Cubase users. and i was one of em. Reaper rocks my socks though, and i don't think i'm ever looking back.
so what basically was supposed to be included in this update they are talking about anyway? it seems pretty major.
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dementedchord
Psychotic State alumni ch
the drag is the manor in which they have handled all this shit.... they promissed the update long ago.... but if you read thier defense it kinda makes sense... although it's surprising to find out they've got limited resources what with yamama's backing... i already have C4 so it probably wont affect me till C5...
TelePaul
J to the R O C
Can someone outline a few differneces between the Cubase 1,2,3,4 series and say LE, SE, SL, and SX? It seems though they're both sequencers released by the same company, they differ quite alot. Seems weird they'd run two softwrae program series' in competition with ecah other.
Carter
Total gear slut
Everyone.......Quit crying, I know you can still do your projects without the update.. 
JoeNovice
Junior Cheeseburger
Carter said:Everyone.......Quit crying, I know you can still do your projects without the update..
That's what I say. The other forum has gone out of control over this b.s. Granted they went back on their word.... .so what.
The known bugs that require the patch are not system critical. I've used the program for post-video production several times recently and I feel that I've pushed the limits of the software without any problems.
If they are going to make a better product in the future at the expense of SX3.2.... good for them.
Kevin Deschwazi
Well-known member
With LE, SE, SL and SX it 's not really different sequencers as such, more like the same sequencer with varying features. The more you spend the more physical inputs, track inserts, MIDI channels etc. you get.TelePaul said:
There's a comparison chart here describing differences between SE, SL etc. here:
http://www.steinbergcanada.com/products/cubase/cubase_comparison.htm
SX3 to 4 is just a major upgrade and revamp of the software, like going from Windows XP to Vista.
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NYMorningstar
Recording Modus Operandi
I agree. The company needs to focus on the new technologies evolving and they made a choice on where to use their resources. It's all part of what makes them the bestCarter said:Everyone.......Quit crying, I know you can still do your projects without the update..
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jaybriggs84
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If someone 3rd party, totally seperate from Steinberg, was able to develope a SX3 update that was UB compatible would that be legal?
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dementedchord
Psychotic State alumni ch
Kevin DeSchwazi said:
i dont know if your downplaying the cubase changes or up-playing the vista....
there's major differences in C4 ... despite the hype my programmer friend tells me vista is an excuse to upgrade drivers....
legionserial
New member
jaybriggs84 said:
Technically, to do that, they would need to reverse engineer Cubase to figure out how to write the patch. In which case it would be illegal.
I never had any time for Steinberg anyway. Yeah, I paid for the software, but have never once raised a support call. Hell, I can't even register as far as I know, because my email account is hotmail. I think Steinberg are arrogant, but to be fair, after putting up with Microsofts shit for so many years, they seem infintely humble. Hell, at least Steinberg don't charge you £30 for every support call you make.
I don't know what level of support Steinberg offer, but their attitude leads me to beleive that it would be pretty shitty. Although I have heard one or two good things. Nonetheless, SX3 is and will be the last product I buy from them. I decided that when I first read that announcement, and at the time I had literally just bought the software. Cubase SX3 is still a fine program, and obviouly I'm not going to just shitcan it because of no more updates. It works fine for me, but I was less than impressed at the 3 hours it took me to get it to work due to the iffy security center that came with the last update. I wouldn't touch Cubase 4 with a bargepole though. And when it's time for me to 'tender' an upgrade to new software (which is a long way away), Steinberg will not get a damn look in.
Day after day I am dreading the minute my dongle packs up. Blood will be shed, I can tell ya.
Caotico
for all the right reasons
legionserial said:
I nearly broke mine in half once, and I had to tape it back together. Fortunately, it still works.
Kevin Deschwazi
Well-known member
I'm doing neither, I haven't even used either of them.dementedchord said:
They're both upgrades, whether or not they're good/bad is another matter.
MatthewRedStars
New member
JoeNovice said:
You can "do the right thing" by your customers and still turn a profit... as consumers we should expect nothing less.
JoeNovice
Junior Cheeseburger
MatthewRedStars said:
All I'm saying is that 3.1.1 is a usable product for 99.9% of the project tasks necessary to generate quality recordings.
It's not as if you spent $3000 for the software. Granted $500 aint cheap but the program is more than functional.'
I feel that there is a lot of bitch'n and moan'n over the update for unfounded reasons.
What problems do you experience on a daily basis that make this update such a necessity?
zed32
Re-Attached Member
JoeNovice said:
HEY. they aren't really bitching about the update. they are upset with the fact that Steinberg promised an update like 15 months ago, and now they are pretty much saying JUST KIDDING!!
thats kinda fucked up IMO.
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xstatic
New member
Its about par for the course. This is a constant issue with virtually all software. I am sure they never intended to go back on things, but the development stage probably went a bit different than expected and things changed.
JoeNovice
Junior Cheeseburger
I'm not really referring to members of this thread or forum as much as some of the post and threads that are @ cubase.net
A quick visit to that site and you will see people in arms to the degree that Steinberg is portrayed as not providing support for a faulty product.
Granted people shouldn't go back on their word.... ethics aside.......
wait what were we talking about.....
has anyone seen this?
NEWS FOR 1/17/2007 Cubase AI4
The real story is the role Yamaha hardware will play in Steinbergs future. Good or Bad... only time will tell.
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dementedchord
Psychotic State alumni ch
thnx for the AI4 link i saw something about it at GS's and couldnt access the link... i've been expecting something along these lines for awhile... somewhat surprised it showed up with the motif though ... that original post i saw said something about integration with a new "N series" mixer but couldn't find anyother info...