Any got a old Mic Or Preamp or shitty sound card

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captainkey said:
dude, I have a PC that's only running Win98.....If that's the Project Pack I'll buy that bundle from you.

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No, no, no, no! You are supposed to GIVE this away to JSkillz! And pay the shipping. And provide technical support. Jeez! Freaking capitalist bastids!
 
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wheelema said:
No, no, no, no! You are supposed to GIVE this away to JSkillz! And pay the shipping. And provide technical support. Jeez! Freaking capitalist bastids!


well, I can't offer him much for the card....maybe 25 bucks or so and I would pay the shipping....

hey, pretty much all of us are in need....the least I can do is offer the guy something for an item that at one time he paid good money for....I just think its kind of rude to ask for a handout...its like people on other forums asking if you wouldnt mind making copies of your loops or your samples and sending it to them.....Why should I??
 
JSkillz is kind of a special case. Not so much in the sense that he deserves to be coddled, but in that he sincerely believes that he is entitled to. He has no concept of the time and money impositions that others would have to invest in to accomodate his requests. So far he has asked for free mics, sound cards, misc. other gear, and mastering. I was being sarcastic. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.
 
wheelema said:
I was being sarcastic. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

I got your sarcasm....no need to apologize

what's scary is that there are millions more like him out there that feel perfectly entitled to your stuff...
 
<<what's scary is that there are millions more like him out there that feel perfectly entitled to your stuff...>>

....or to free food.....or to free medical care....or free prescription drugs.....

the larger problem here, which is more than evidenced by this doofus, is that there's a whole generation (or two) of people who believe they're entitled to everything free of charge and that they don't have to work for any of it. it should be all handed out free and they should just have to sit home "makin beatz and smokin da chronic, yo".

thanks FDR. you really screwed up the concept of "working for a living".


wade
 
mrface2112 said:
the larger problem here, which is more than evidenced by this doofus, is that there's a whole generation (or two) of people who believe they're entitled to everything free of charge and that they don't have to work for any of it. it should be all handed out free and they should just have to sit home "makin beatz and smokin da chronic, yo".

wade

or run for public office where free food, free transportation, free medical care, free precription drugs and even free sex is in abundance.....

this to me is the bigger menace.....they set the standard for how society operates as whole....these scumbags are supposed to be public servants, yet 24/7 they walk around with their hands out going "where's mine?"....

the whole issue of public aid for those who feel entitled to collect checks, medical care, food, and prescription drugs while sitting home on their dead ass was created by politicians anyway....its strictly politically motivated....they created this mess we are in...
 
Originally posted by mrface2112 thanks FDR. you really screwed up the concept of "working for a living".

I don't want to get too much into politics here on the mic board, but I can't let this one go. There's too much wrong with this statement.

First off, America has only gotten more productive since FDR's time...but somehow you don't attribute that productivity to him.

Secondly, how can you assume a whole generation has a single belief system?

I assume you were born after FDR's time, and thus prone to the programs that made FDR one of our greatest presidents. Do you consider yourself lazy, or reliant on the government's teet, simply because of your familiarization with FDR's initiatives?

If you have any children, I think you owe them an apology.

Graham
 
captainkey said:
....they created this mess we are in...

Oy...

Yes, politicans do suck. No, they're not responsible for the laziness of a few unfortunate that can't work because of medical reasons, or whatever.

Somehow, you feel the poorest of the poor aren't trying, AND you assume the government is letting them have the time of their life without a job. Huh.

In 1970, the average monthly welfare check per family was $676 (in 1993 dollars).

In 1993, the average monthly welfare check per family was $373.

What a life that must be, living on a few hundred dollars a month! This is the point of welfare; enough to get you by, and not enough to live off of permanently. '

Has it ever occured to you that MAYBE some people need some special privledge sometimes? Next time you collect unemployment, or claim tax benefits, look yourself in the mirror, and try to figure out where you stand.
 
grahamware said:
Somehow, you feel the poorest of the poor aren't trying, AND you assume the government is letting them have the time of their life without a job. Huh.

What a life that must be, living on a few hundred dollars a month! This is the point of welfare; enough to get you by, and not enough to live off of permanently. '

Has it ever occured to you that MAYBE some people need some special privledge sometimes? Next time you collect unemployment, or claim tax benefits, look yourself in the mirror, and try to figure out where you stand.

If you read my post carefully, you'll see that I said "those that feel entitled to sit home on their dead ass and collect..etc, etc...."
are the targets of my criticisms....

It doesn't sound to me like you are really aware of the widespread abuse of the public aid system ....its out there....check it out....

I took your suggestion and looked in the mirror and tried to figure out where I stand....here's what I've come up with:

a)I've never collected unemployment in my life

b)yes, I have claimed tax benefits....the money that I've reaped from those benefits basically goes back into the economy where I function as a consumer...my consuming creates jobs, new business opportunities, goes toward local and state sales tax, helps give people a weekly paycheck, (a portion of which in turn goes back to the federal govt so Georgie Boy can rebuild Iraq...)
 
you're missing the point entirely.

the whole point of public aid was NOT to help people "get by". It was to help people get back on their feet after some sort of personal catostrophy. it was NOT to support people who aren't trying. therein lies the difference and with that, the problem.

i'm all for helping people get back on their feet due to whatever reason. it's the human thing to do. and in their case, the amount of money they're getting is indeed pretty shitty.

however, i'm NOT for supporting lazy people who expect a handout and/or don't want to work. those are the people i'm talking about. and yes, there are a LOT of them.

anyway, i'm scraping by just like the rest of y'all are. i find it insulting for someone to be begging free mics and free gear off of people who have (in all likelihood) busted their asses and worked long days or nights in order to buy them in the first place. get a freaking job and buy your own damn gear. join the club.


wade
 
BTW, my apologies for bringing politics into this, and i've smacked myself on the wrist for doing so. :D


i've just worked really hard all of my life to earn what i've got (be it a mic or my truck), and it galls me seeing someone expect to not have to do the same.


anyway.....let's record something with that gear we've all worked so hard to obtain. :D


wade
 
I am again sorry for getting politics into this. I don't mean to fill the board with rhetoric. :D

captainkey said:
...you'll see that I said "those that feel entitled to sit home on their dead ass and collect..etc, etc...."
are the targets of my criticisms....its out there....check it out....

Where are these people that sit on their ass and collect welfare and other benefits? I have no idea where you or other conservatives get those numbers quantifying these lazy scumbags you constantly berate. I've never met one, and last I checked, most of America has a job.

Where is this epidemic? And why would the goverment possibly support them, knowing millions, if not billions of tax dollars are going to them? Clearly politicans could cut them out of the picture, without fear of losing political posts! How much of our voting bloc sits on their ass and collects, AND bothers to go out and vote?

I'm guessing your definition of 'moocher' includes single mothers, veterans, the terminally ill and the like. Maybe then you could form a voting majority that could exert enough political force to keep these 'excessive' programs intact.

How many people would bother living through an existence where they weren't trying? I'd go nuts.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Any got a old Mic Or Preamp or shitty sound card

captainkey said:
well, I can't offer him much for the card....maybe 25 bucks or so and I would pay the shipping....

hey, pretty much all of us are in need....the least I can do is offer the guy something for an item that at one time he paid good money for....I just think its kind of rude to ask for a handout...its like people on other forums asking if you wouldnt mind making copies of your loops or your samples and sending it to them.....Why should I??

Sounds cool.
I won't have time to box it up till the weekend though. Just IM me with your shipping info, etc...
 
grahamware said:
Where are these people that sit on their ass and collect welfare and other benefits? I have no idea where you or other conservatives get those numbers quantifying these lazy scumbags you constantly berate. I've never met one, and last I checked, most of America has a job.

I'm a commie myself, but you have to realize that these people do exist in large numbers. You just haven't been exposed to them. Live in the "projects" of a large city or the "white trash" or "trailer trash" areas in suburban or rural amerika.
Get a job as a social worker or in child protective services or at a medicaid clinic or at a homeless shelter. You'll see more fucked up people than you ever imagined. Many of them don't have the mental or physical wherewithall to improve their situation, although some live that way through choice.

These folks used to die of hunger, pestilence and disease in times past, but now that society supports and cares for them, they reproduce more rapidly than the productive members of society and they have grown in numbers and in proportion.

This may be politically incorrect to say, but we are polluting our gene pool and it may be our downfall.
 
grahamware said:

Where is this epidemic?


I live in Chicago....big city America....its my only point of reference

about once a year, the Chicago Police Department receives a report of child neglect, investigates it, and pretty soon its all over the papers, news, etc....

these are not "normal" child neglect cases...its hideous, mind boggling and unbelievable.....they find 12 or 13 children huddled on a filthy, feces strewn mattress fighting with rats for a scrap of food...the apartment is usually without hot water and heat or electricity....some of the children are as young as 2 or 3....some are mentally retarded....

where are the parents..??? well the mom is probably out hustling to keep the crack flowing....the dad or dads?? who knows.....

12 or 13 children can bring a healthy ADC check (Aid to Dependent Children)..not to mention a LINK card, health vouchers, etc....the LINK card is supposed to be used to buy the essentials but its probably being pawned off to be used for party essentials.....

this is not a "conservative" point of view...this is fact...I have friends who are social workers as well as my sister.....the real tragedy is these are only the reported cases....many more slip through the cracks....
 
yeah, graham......crazydoc and captainkey are dead on the money. go spend some time in DC or NYC, and i don't mean MidTown, either. :D

just b/c you ain't seen it don't mean it's not there. believe me, it's there. i grew up right down the street from it and it's SAD (in every way).

i was also a sociology major in college, and if that doesn't give one a good long look at society's nasty underbelly, nothing will.


wade
 
WHOA! I know there's lots of poor people! But that's not my liberal-minded point.

A) Poor people, on a whole, DESERVE money. There are a lot of them, but there aren't many who wrongly take thousands of dollars of government money and do NOTHING with their lives. This is the 'epidemic' I was referring to.

also

B) There isn't that much government money going around. If anything, there should be more, for the reasons you guys cited.
 
A few years ago, the company I worked for went belly-up and I was collecting unemployment for about 6 months.

If I remember correctly, during that time, I couldn't actually work or I wouldn't be able to collect that unemployment. And by work, I mean that even if I took on temp work or odd jobs, I would have to have that subtracted from my already meager unemployment check.

So basically, you're in a situation that makes it unnecessarily difficult. You're used to a particular standard of living . . . you have a certain amount of money you owe every month and certain living expenses -- those aren't going down any. :D

And here you are collecting unemployment, which isn't anywhere near enough to support and maintain that standard -- Unless you take on extra work on the side; temping, odd jobs, et. But of course, if you do that, you say goodbye to your unemployment.

On top of all of that, if you take on odd jobs or work meager jobs to support yourself in the meantime, that takes up a lot of time. Time that could be better spent interviewing and looking for a real job.

That's actually how my whole studio thing got started in the first place. One day, I got called in to an "all-employee" meeting. The topic of which was "We're closing up, and all of us are out of jobs. So let's all go get drunk with what little is left of the petty cash fund, and wish each other luck." :D

And some of us have had trouble recovering. I'm doing fine, but some of my former co-workers are still, to this day, either looking for work, or accepting a lower standard of living. It all happened at a time when the economy just wasn't able to support a lot of the jobs that were lost during some of the closings and layoff rounds around the time of 9/11.

I'm not sure what my original point was :D . . . oh yea, FDR and public aid. You're just not going to realize the necessity of it until you're put in the situation. And yes, bad things happen to good people, and you can't predict it. And although I was lucky, I can see where "the system" can use some minor overhauls.

And I can definitely see where someone can fall in to a rut and get caught up in a downward cycle they can't get out of after something like that happens: If you can't find a job, you can't make money. And if you can't make money, it's hard to find a job. Looking for a job costs money: Phone line, internet connection (for emailing resumes), fax machine (for faxing resumes and references). Interviewing costs even more money; resumes, suits, dry cleaning, hair cuts, transportation to and from the interviews, and just looking healthy and respectable. Double all of these costs for women, because then you have to factor in the cost of makeup, perfume, hair stylist, etc. etc.

Quadruple or quintuple all of these costs if the economy is bad, because you'll likely have to go on four to five times as many interviews (maybe more) in order to land a job -- or even to get a bite.

And don't tell me this stuff isn't important, because as soon as you tell me it's all about qualifications and not looks, another guy is going to walk through the door with similar qualifications and he's going to look like a million bucks; with tan skin, a slick, expensive suit, a silk tie and a winning smile with perfect teeth (thanks to the dental work he can afford).


These are realities, guys.
 
Yeah that Kid Jskillz is a bitch

some one needs to set him stright that little kid coming on here posting:rolleyes:
 
jskillz89 said:
Yeah that Kid Jskillz is a bitch

some one needs to set him stright that little kid coming on here posting:rolleyes:

Hey, J, we're just a bunch of old wannabes here - don't take it to heart.

Maybe if you'd explained your situation, whatever it is, at the beginning of the post, we wouldn't have just figured you were just some guy trying to suck at the tit of society.
 
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