Antares Autotune

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zip,

the saving time on tracking comment.
hmm, it's not so much about saving time. i never use auto tune unless the poor singer is really strugling and you know that after take 62 he's not gonna hit that magic note. ill then have a listen to all the takes on mixdown and see which one has the best expression, and work with it. it's never been a time saver thing *for me*. you should try and get what you can out of the singer. id rather not have to tell people i used auto tune on a record.
 
Longwave...

Very good point. Some of my vocalist idols are the best in the biz...James LaBrie, Steve Perry, Steve Walsh, Robert Plant...etc...

I am by no means comparing my abilities with theirs but it drives your point home. I know autotune was not around when Plant was in his prime...that was raw talent. Not sure about Walsh and Perry in the early to mid 80's but I would guess Mr. LaBrie has had a note of two polished up to perfection....:p

I guess I can now see both sides of the coin...

I'm not a true engineer but I can understand why in a session an engineer would want or need to autotune a TON of vocalists. I would bet if I stretched my range I would need one as well..;)

As a vocalist I believe a lot of "performers" now-a-days just take the easy way out...LEAN on technology without the use of fundamentals.

A good example would be me on a guitar...sure I play a bit but if I were to really claim to be a guitarist I would practice my ASS off to be as good as POSSIBLE without using as much technology.

I just think in the interest of "perfection without effort" the musicians today take the easy road...that's all. I've been singing for 25 or more years and I still practice everyday!

I still may buy an autotune to make that perfect high note a bit easier....:);) but I still make an attempt to do it the old fashioned way first.

peace man...

zip >>

ps...Mariah may sqeek but I still dig her boobs...:D

I don't get off on them but they are damn nice to look at...:cool:
 
BTW...I really should add the best in their genre.....

I'm sure there are many vocalists as good or better out there...
 
Mariah's boobs? Man! Since she's had them pumped up, one wants to turn left and the other one right!

My last thing on the autotune - I've actually used it a lot more on instruments than vocals.
 
zip,

"I still may buy an autotune to make that perfect high note a bit easier...."

do you understand that you dont sing directly into autotune? it needs to be used on mixdown so you can guarentee it's tracking the notes properly.

get auto tune zip! it's a great tool to just keep. you never know when it can come in handy. the thing is, i dont like to give my finished product out, knowing the singer is a tiny bit flat in a few places. people with perfect pitch will pick this out easily and it then makes a bad record which would reflect on me aswell as the singer. so when you HAVE to do something about the few notes, autotune is a blessing. i haven't tried the TC Electronics "autotune" unit, but i hear it's pretty good too.

I sometimes use autotune on gutar solos, if the guitarist has made a string bend and it hasn't quite made the full tone, i use autotune.

anyone used it on anything strange? the only wierd thing ive used it on is a snare drum...


-Romesh.
 
I've used it on toms, to tune them to a bass, I've used it on guitar power chords, to tune a whole section down in a mix, and I used it to simulate the sound of a spaceship, which we recorded by drivng in a car with the window open, and sticking a mic out, in the wind.
 
They are pumped? Darn, I like the real thing. Good job though, it's not obvious.
 
LongWaveStudio said:

do you understand that you dont sing directly into autotune? it needs to be used on mixdown so you can guarentee it's tracking the notes properly.

get auto tune zip!
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Yeah...I'm aware of that. What I meant to say was if I laid down a good solid track with one blunder ;) I would use autotune during the mix...:D... Verses the ol' punch in and out until it's a perfect track...

I'm going to get it but I have a few other priorities first...if ya know what I mean...;)

After reading a few more posts I know I'll buy one for when I can't get one of my musician buddies to lay down that killer guitar / bass track for me...

Mariah...

Pumped or not...left or right...I'd still stick my face 'tween dem puppies....:D:D

lata...zip >>
 
Hi, bdemenil, I've just picked up this thread at a late stage, so I don't know whether you are still following answers to your original question. After some of the pious, sanctimonious rubbish that's been posted, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd given up!

I have an ATR-1a, and, while it's not quite the lifesaver I expected, it is still a handy and reassuring tool. I'm not sure I'm using it to its fullest capabilities, but I do have a few tips to offer:

1. Don't send your original vocal through it - record your dry vocal to tape and then send an Aux out/return through the ATR and back into your desk.
2. Use the "Make scale from midi" function, rather than one of the preset scales.
3. Using too fast a speed tends to make your vocal "yelp" if your note is out. I've found that a speed of 15-20 gives me the most natural results.
4. Don't bother with the "vibrato" function, which is highly sensitive to incorrect adjustment and can give a very artificial sound to the performance.
5. If problems are difficult to eliminate, then trying adjusting the "Sensitivity" control in the System menu.

Overall, I would say that the gear is a bit highly-strung and needs a lot of practice and careful adjustment to get the best out of - I'm still experimenting myself.

Hope this helps - ignore the gobshites and the know-it-alls.
 
Originally posted by Human By Design Hope this helps - ignore the gobshites and the know-it-alls.
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Yeah... that's right... ignore all the pro's advice that was given here (those same pros that have proven over and over again that they know what they're talking about when posting at this site)

What you want to do is ignore them all in favour of an unknown newbie whose first post completely disses the more knowledgeable folk here....

H by D... you may want to look around and lurk to find out exactly WHO you're trashing before you post next time... your comments could just blow up in your face otherwise.

Bruce
 
Agreed sjoko... I was talking more about the attitude than his actual hints/tips...

Bruce
 
Human By Design said:
After some of the pious, sanctimonious rubbish that's been posted, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd given up!
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He may be talking about me...that's OK. I can take it! A tool is a tool only if used as a tool.

My only point is if one chooses to polish a piece of garbage ad infinitum without paying attention to music fundamentals...

.....it is still a polished piece of garbage.

But WTF do I know?? :rolleyes:

I'm going to go PRACTICE now.... :) At least I have now recognized there is some value in the Autotune...

...I actually listened and LEARNED something...imagine that!

zip >>
 
autotune on bass gtrs work great.... drawing out vibatos on long held out notes works great, light use on a vocal track to *nudge* things closer to true pitch works fantastically. Overuse it, like anything else, like a multiband compressor, and things would probably tend to suffer. I would venture it has been used on vocal tracks that no one outside that particular recording circle could even tell or knew about. I've used it on vocalists in my own studio, and the original singers never knew....using it with the "pitch meter" just barely showing correction...just a gentle *nudge*, like I say. Makes a big difference to me. And...who's to say you can't get creative and pitch bend the reverb on a gtr, or use it on vocals and combine the result with the original for a *different* form of doubling, etc.? Not everyone can sound like Cher now...dat aint original!!! :-) (argh!!)
 
H.B.D. , I'm still listening. I've experimented a bit with it, and have found - as other people on this board have - that when used on a vocal that's pretty good to begin with - it sounds quite natural. I also understand opposal to its use. I hope I don't have to use it very often. Anyone out there using Antares Auto-tune 3? Any better than the original?
 
Awwww....

Thanks sjoko....

Nudging and pitch bending the axe is cool....

:cool:

zip >>

PS - anyone compare the autotune software to the outboard unit?? I'm PC based so if I buy one it makes sense to use a plug-in...

....or does it???
 
Can Anyone help me

How do you get the "TPain" voice effect on your vocals????? I was planning on working on some hooks with it - but can't find it anywhere....Can anyone tell me where to maybe download the free plugin - or even a demo plugin for cool edit pro???? I have cool edit - just need the "Auto-tune"
 
Trouble said:
How do you get the "TPain" voice effect on your vocals????? I was planning on working on some hooks with it - but can't find it anywhere....Can anyone tell me where to maybe download the free plugin - or even a demo plugin for cool edit pro???? I have cool edit - just need the "Auto-tune"
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As you can see, this is a very old thread!!!!

Google it and you can get tons of information .........There are plenty of youtube entries as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpg5Zg-UGtU

This guy is bugging out though!
 
Trouble said:
How do you get the "TPain" voice effect on your vocals????? I was planning on working on some hooks with it - but can't find it anywhere....Can anyone tell me where to maybe download the free plugin - or even a demo plugin for cool edit pro???? I have cool edit - just need the "Auto-tune"
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Why the hell do people still use Cool Edit Pro? Wasn't the Audition upgrade free?
 
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