Another 388 recording

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All the Meat tracks were done on my 388, with a few digital overdubs.

Still not quite done yet, but I'm pretty proud of this one. It's some friends of mine from NYC who came down and recorded some songs for a 7", nice thunders inspired rock and roll / power pop.

What do you guys think, too rough?

 
I guess you would call this surf rock? Maybe I am not sure. But it does have a very 60,s sound that i like. The one thing that I didnt like was the brick wall limiting you used to make it loud like everything else that is out today.
I would like to see you remix it or get rid of the high limiting and put some dynamics back in it.
Other than that great job.
 
For today's mixing and recording standards, it works, including the compression. If this is the sound you were going for then you have succeeded. On the other hand, I agree that this sounds very 60's and perhaps could have benefited from such mixing (ie: less compression). All in all I think the performance was great! Btw, what bitrate did you use for this mp3 ?
 
Thanks man, yeah I went WAY out in left field with mixing this time, I ran the mastering program as a buss on all the tracks and I think I overdid it a bunch. Plus it was 5 in the morning, you know how neighbors can get, so I had my speakers turned way down. My main purpose for the limiting is really for the effect that I'm trying to get, a lot of 70s punk recordings have it, not sure what it's called, and it's hard to describe in words, but I'll figure it out some day...softknee compression maybe (?) There's so much shit that I don't understand about mastering yet. :)
 
I wonder how it'd sound if you just left out the mastering stage, without all the sweetening ? Can you undo ?
 
cjacek said:
For today's mixing and recording standards, it works, including the compression. If this is the sound you were going for then you have succeeded. On the other hand, I agree that this sounds very 60's and perhaps could have benefited from such mixing (ie: less compression). All in all I think the performance was great! Btw, what bitrate did you use for this mp3 ?
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160kbps bitrate for the mp3, yeah I agree about the performance though, you wouldn't believe how good this kid is at guitar, I've never seen anything like it. It's not like a guitar geek kinda good, either, it's more of the type of talent that, well, just every little part fits perfectly with the song.
 
cjacek said:
I wonder how it'd sound if you just left out the mastering stage, without all the sweetening ? Can you undo ?
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Yeah, that's actually how I had it before, didn't sound too bad but IMO too lifeless...I like dirty sounding stuff :)
 
Carbonas said:
160kbps bitrate for the mp3, yeah I agree about the performance though, you wouldn't believe how good this kid is at guitar, I've never seen anything like it. It's not like a guitar geek kinda good, either, it's more of the type of talent that, well, just every little part fits perfectly with the song.
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160 is cool. :) Yeah, I can't fault the performance 'cause it's right on target. In fact all the musicians are perfect.
 
Carbonas said:
Yeah, that's actually how I had it before, didn't sound too bad but IMO too lifeless...I like dirty sounding stuff :)
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It's just my opinion but I always feel overcompression = lifeless.
 
Yeah, usually I try to keep the plugins/effects and all that to a minimum, I really want to get a 2 track to mix down to and just get a cheap $100 limiter for vocals and just see how creative I'll have to be :)

I'm gonna try to dig up some song examples of the type of compression that I'm trying to duplicate, anyone have any ideas of what the big/new thing was in the mid / late 70s studios? Also it could be that I'm listening to alot of this stuff on vinyl, so it may have happened when it was actually being pressed.
 
The more I listen to this the more I like it. But there is one more thing. Here on my system the vocals are just down to much for me. They need to come up some in the mix.
Also how much of it was done in the 388 and what else did you use for gear?
ie mics reverbs, And how did you record it?
 
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