Alan... No Stephen Paul Mic?

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To answer your question, DJL...

Capsule and diaphragm designs.

I'd link you to the page were Stephen talked about it in his forum, but Chris at rec.org pulled stephen's forum a couple of months before he died.

IF Harvey or Alan are lurking in this thread, they can provide a lot more details-I don't remember them at this point.
 
I'd also like to know more about Neumann. Alan Hyatt said a German company riped off Stephen Paul and, I wonder what it was that Neumann ripped off. I thought Stephen Paul was just a dealer and repair shop in the USA for Neumann... therefore, it would seem more likely that Stephen Paul ripped off Neumann instead of the other way around.
 
DJL -

I must say that I have read this thread with some amusement. I don't know what your beef is with Alan but this last statement shows that it is possible to put both of your feet in your mouth at the same time.

Perhaps in a week or so I'll make it back to this thread and see if you've managed to swallow your BUTT also.

Sorry mate but your triads are getting old and tiresome (and extremely predictable).
 
DJL said:
I'd also like to know more about Neumann. Alan Hyatt said a German company riped off Stephen Paul and, I wonder what it was that Neumann ripped off.
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Here's a clue

3 MICRON DIAPHRAGMS
 
DJL said:
Which Neumann mic has the SPA 3 micron diaphragm?
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All of the ones that Stephen modified.

Actually, Stephen was retrofitting 3 and 6 micron capsules into Neumanns well before Neumann "came up with" the technology to make their own. That's where all fun started.

Again, your question is best answered by Harvey or Alan-they know a lot more of the details, and since Chris whacked the RO forum, none of the threads there are accessible-it was discussed at length in Stephen's forum.

If Harvey or Alan aren't so pissed off at you right now for insinuating that Stephen stole from Neumann instead of the other way around (and if you had ANY idea what you were talking about in this case, you wouldn't have said that), they might drop back into this thread and answer you.
 
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The number 149 is dancing around my head for some reason... ;)
 
DJL-

Since you apparently know very little about Stephen Paul, his accomplishments, and his history, here's some recommended reading for you:

Note the reference microphones

More from PAR

Note who recorded this album...any repect for HIM?

Oh, look! A competing manufacturer chimes in!

These guys like the SP mods...and their client list doesn't suck.

Gosh...another reference test...of preamps. Guess which kind of mic?

You may have heard of this guy...guess what his favorite mic is?

Now, if you STILL have questions about who got who in the SP/Neumann war, I ask you this. If SP stole from Neumann, why aren't all the reference mics UNmodded versions?
 
Did someone from Neumann break into Stephen Paul's shop and rip him off, or did someone from Neumann take apart one of his modified Neumann mics and rip off his idea's, and if you say yes, who was it? Or is Alan Hyatt saying Neumann ripped off Stephen Paul just because they may make a 3 micron diaphragm? Who's company is older, Stephen Paul Audio, or Neumann? Who learned form who first... did Stephen Paul learn form Neumann mic designs first or the other way around.

RE... why does the 149 come to mind?
 
Stephen Paul was the first person to make a 3 micron diaphragm capsule.


Neumann used his technique without ever crediting him or compensating him in any way


Which is another reason to boycott them.
 
I guess the 149 stands for M149, the TEC award winning tube mic from the more than 75 year old Neumann company.

(who's company is older?)

The M149 has a 4 micron diaphragm and the space between the diaphragm and backplate is so narrow that a human hair will not fit in there.

The tube is a JAN 6111, which is also found in the M150, another stunning microphone from Neumann.
 
Does that mean every company who ever makes a 3 micron diaphragm ripped off Stephen Paul?
 
DJL said:
Does that mean every company who ever makes a 3 micron diaphragm ripped it off from Stephen Paul and therefore give Stephen Paul credit?
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I think they are talking about the process not the final product. Just read what people actually post and it will make sense. If they were using their own process for making them no credit is due but if they used his process then I think they should acknowledge it.
 
what do you mean when you say 3 micron is that they thickness of the diaphram or the gap or something else?
 
"Stephen Paul made diaphragms less than 1 micron."

Ok, but what does that have to do with Alan Hyatt's claim that Neumann ripped off Stephen Paul?
 
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If they were using their own process for making them no credit is due but if they used his process then I think they should acknowledge it.
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Now we're getting somewhere. And what about if they used their own modified process verson of it? I wonder where Alan Haytt/PMI is getting his information.
 
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