After mixing down to VHS...

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For most of my mixing down i've just done direct from the multitrack to a normal cassette deck. I'm working on some stuff now that I want better quality for... My computer as of now is pretty sad (100mhz... sound card i'm too embarrassed to even mention, heh) and i don't have access to or the money for a DAT machine... so I want to try out VHS. I know how to mix down to it but i'm kinda stumped on what to do after. Do i just play that out onto a cassette deck? I don't quite get what that would do, it's just adding an extra step in the mixdown, so wouldn't that be adding hiss or lowering quality, even if VHS has fairly high quality?
 
The point in mixing to VHS is so that your cassette copies sound better. A cassette dub of a cassette master is really noisey. the same dub from VHS is going to be considerably less noisey. I've just started mixing to Hi-Fi Vhs recently and I'm floored buy the results. I'm also using a BBE 462 that I (luckily)got used for 75$ about three years ago (the new ones might be even better, not sure what they go for) Here is how I do it. (I'm working from a Tascam 424- the old one) I go through the BBE into the VCR which is fed through my cassette deck. I have the cassete deck level set right in the middle and I use that to check my levels since my VCR has no level meter.(I could probably do it even hotter but I feel safe there) So as I mix to VHS i can also mix to cassette. I started doing this so that I could A/B the results. The VHS sounds way better. On the VHS you have to put a little more space between the songs, after a song, have a bit of post roll. (In video editing it's 5 sec. so I do that) i then rewind and stop the tape just after the song ends. and then do a five second preroll before I hit play on the four track for the next song. I haven't hit any dropouts yet. I read that Dragon puts like thirty seconds between songs, honestly, I think thats being a little paranoid. I've done video editing before so I guess I'm not afraid. (If I had a VCR that was set up for editing I could get less than a second cause i'd already have the sync down on the tape (I'll do some experiments at school and post the results) But your average Hi-Fi will do the job, just wont be tight. The pre-roll post-roll thing prevents the popping in between edits. think of the silence after the song as the video you are editing out, you then put what you do want over that. (in this case a little bit of silence (safety)then another song)I try to get the songs as close together as I can cause i generaly make a lot of dubs and i dont want to sit by the recorder for every song when i make a dub. (I can live with five seconds) Also when I do the Dub I go throught the BBE again! That's probably not the best practice, cause it can add some noise but actually i turn down the process button to about 25% and the contour is at 50% so i'm not adding any additonal highs or lows. The first time I did all this I had made the cassette master and then dumped down from the VHS to the other side of the cassette so that I could A/B them again and the 2nd(or should i say 3rd) generation dub from the Hi-Fi sounded even betteer than the straight up cassette version. (and It's the same mix here!) I've had that BBE for a while and never thought to just put it in between the deck and the four track! (I guess i missed the obvious) Thanks to this forum for that!!! I used it in my acoustic guitar rig and that's it! SO (sorry to be so long winded here!) get a BBE if you don't have one and if you've got the cash! Even if not, try the VHS, it's defitly a better way.
 
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Step one; (oh boy not another one) record from your PC recorded source to the VCR, then if you can, burn to an out side source CD recorder that still has the old analog converter micro board like the old Phillips Consumer Recorder. RCA out (from the VCR) to the RCA input of the CD Recorder and you will hear the 'Fattest' bass you have ever heard, then burn your duplicates from that master..(youll get a clean 'Fat' sound on your join..Fa' Sho')
 
ZARCOTU said:
Step one; (oh boy not another one) record from your PC recorded source to the VCR, then if you can, burn to an out side source CD recorder that still has the old analog converter micro board like the old Phillips Consumer Recorder. RCA out (from the VCR) to the RCA input of the CD Recorder and you will hear the 'Fattest' bass you have ever heard, then burn your duplicates from that master..(youll get a clean 'Fat' sound on your join..Fa' Sho')
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After FIVE YEARS, I would assume they have gotten it worked out. :rolleyes:
 
I have an unrelated problem that perhaps you could help me with ...


Ya see, I've got this opportunity to go on this cruise ship. It's really big and cool. I believe it's called the Titanic.

I was wondering if you think I should go on this cruise. Do you think these big vessels are safe? I'm a little nervous. Thanks.
 
before you go, make sure you count the lifeboats. I read about this somewhere. Mabye a histor book? Oh, and watch out for icebergs.
 
chessrock said:
I have an unrelated problem that perhaps you could help me with ...


Ya see, I've got this opportunity to go on this cruise ship. It's really big and cool. I believe it's called the Titanic.

I was wondering if you think I should go on this cruise. Do you think these big vessels are safe? I'm a little nervous. Thanks.
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Er....yeah, totally safe. See you in New York.
 
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