adding crap to my monitoring chain

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Flailing up a storm.
I just upgraded my recording from a fostex MR8 to the Layla 24/96 through cubase. Monitoring used to go out of either the MR8 directly or through a UB892 mixer to Warfedale 8.1 Actives. With the layla, the output signal is very strong and i am concenred about quality loss from having to turn down the output on the layla so much. As it stands i have this down fairly low (just about halfway on the layla software console fadess and have to turnt he amps down to about a quarter on the monitors themselves. This chain is just too darn loud for normal listening/mixing.

THis bugs me for a few reasons, a) as soon as i turn up the output from the PC i start hearing so much more bass and detail, and i know i am missing stuff having everyhting turned down. b) when there are lots of dynamics going on, i am missing subtleties or worse, getting blasted when something loud gets put into the mix (like if i play CD music through the PC and have the volume at "normal" levels through itunes.

So i was considering adding the cheap, crappy, UB802 Behringer mixer back in to give me a way to conrol the output from the layla directly, via the control room outs on the mixer.

Anyone have thoughts as to wether this will add noise or affect my monitoring ability when mixing? Since none of the gear (and my lack of real experience/talent) is really of professional stature, I am leaning toward thinking this can;t really hurt too much, and at least giveme some control to fine tune my output volume.

Thanks for any input here,
Daav
 
I have monitor issues myself, so I have no answers to that subject.

Whatever you do, DON'T buy a behringer anything...look around online and you'll see why. Besides, I can tell you, it sucks.
 
What's the output level on your Layla set for? +4 or -10?
 
MadAudio said:
What's the output level on your Layla set for? +4 or -10?
Fantastic question, I hadn't even considered that. I think it defaults to +4, I should switch it eh?

Daav
 
daav said:
Fantastic question, I hadn't even considered that. I think it defaults to +4, I should switch it eh?

Daav
I'd at least give it a try. Either that or get a passive attenuator to go between soundcard and monitors.
 
Whatever you do, DON'T buy a behringer anything...look around online and you'll see why. Besides, I can tell you, it sucks.

For the price that some people can afford to pay behringer fills a niche in the market. I some some behringer gear and i have had good luck with it. It was cheap to buy, has plenty of features and has worked for me.

Not everyone has a business run recording studio that can afford to drop bucks on whatever they want.

If you advise people not to buy something don't back it up with "it sucks" because that is not a reason to not buy it. I really hate it when people jump on the bandwagon and post for the sake of posting with the "it sucks don't buy it" phrase.

How much Behringer gear have you had experience with ? :mad:
 
cut and pasted from their website :-

(it is discontinued btw)

Hardware Features

8 balanced ¼" analog inputs with 110dB (A-weighted) dynamic range
8 balanced ¼" analog outputs with 115dB (A-weighted) dynamic range
MIDI in/out/thru
24 bit optical and coaxial S/PDIF digital I/O
ADAT optical digital I/O
Headphone output with volume control
Word clock I/O
Rack mountable single space breakout box
15' cable to connect to PC
128x oversampling analog-to-digital converters
Supports full duplex 16 channel in, 16 channel out operation
PCI or CardBus bus mastering interface
+4dBu or -10dBv analog I/O on each analog channel
Software console for monitoring, metering, and setting levels
Built-in digital mixer provides near-zero latency monitoring
Driver support for Windows 95/98/Me2000/XP and Macintosh OS 8/9/X (Jaguar & Panther)
Support for WDM, ASIO and GSIF
Low-latency drivers
Compatible with all popular recording products



so ......

+4dBu or -10dBv analog I/O on each analog channel

you can drop the audio level on each individual channel by setting it to -10dBv, kinda cool because that means you can set each channel individually.
 
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