jpw23
New member
Very cool!!!!!
ido1957
9K Gold Member
The first thing I notice was dynamics, right from the start. This really ebbs and flows, driven by the strings. The ending is, well, powerful to say the least.
I think the last section is mixed right - it's all blending pretty good (strings and keys).
The backups - and I'm not sure all the instruments involved, have a nice percussive bass sound to them.
Nice levels on the backup strings, and keyboards.
That cathedral organ has to be a few layers deep...it is really thick.
The soloing (well actually all the playing) is just fabulous, as always....
Excellent!
I think the last section is mixed right - it's all blending pretty good (strings and keys).
The backups - and I'm not sure all the instruments involved, have a nice percussive bass sound to them.
Nice levels on the backup strings, and keyboards.
That cathedral organ has to be a few layers deep...it is really thick.
The soloing (well actually all the playing) is just fabulous, as always....
Excellent!
jpw23
New member
Well...there you went and had to say all those things when all I said was "Very cool"The first thing I notice was dynamics, right from the start. This really ebbs and flows, driven by the strings. The ending is, well, powerful to say the least.
I think the last section is mixed right - it's all blending pretty good (strings and keys).
The backups - and I'm not sure all the instruments involved, have a nice percussive bass sound to them.
Nice levels on the backup strings, and keyboards.
That cathedral organ has to be a few layers deep...it is really thick.
The soloing (well actually all the playing) is just fabulous, as always....
Excellent!
Seriously.....David, have you ever thought about doing this for a living
ido1957
9K Gold Member
You're right I should have added ..... Very Cool! 
lol... I slay me...
lol... I slay me...
Xeries
Earth Member
Very cool I kill myself, too. Nice work David. Your violin playing is very expressive. That must be your main instrument. The pace of the piece is a bit labored, but that's not your problem. The staccato bass line in triplets smacks of a dirge like Ravel's Bolero. It's nice, but the tempo could use a little more variation.
I know it's stupid to comment on the composition to someone who did such a wonderful job producing the piece. But, since I'm not familiar with the piece, that's what I naturally lean toward.
Excellent work. Should get to #1 on Soundclick.
I kill myself, too. Nice work David. Your violin playing is very expressive. That must be your main instrument. The pace of the piece is a bit labored, but that's not your problem. The staccato bass line in triplets smacks of a dirge like Ravel's Bolero. It's nice, but the tempo could use a little more variation.I know it's stupid to comment on the composition to someone who did such a wonderful job producing the piece. But, since I'm not familiar with the piece, that's what I naturally lean toward.
Excellent work. Should get to #1 on Soundclick.
DavidK
New member
Thanks for the comments Jay, Gerry and Xeries.
Its actually a little fast. Adagio means=very slow. Here's a youtube version with a much slower tempo, which is usually how we play it in the orchestra.
Albinoni
Nonetheless, I think my version is too long. I am trying to figure out a cut, its hard to sustain it with just one guy overdubbed. I appreciate the comments.
Its actually a little fast.
Adagio means=very slow. Here's a youtube version with a much slower tempo, which is usually how we play it in the orchestra.Albinoni
Nonetheless, I think my version is too long.
I am trying to figure out a cut, its hard to sustain it with just one guy overdubbed. I appreciate the comments.
Nakatira
That Norwegian Bastard
Love that tune.
I have no nits with the recording, its just damn good.
I have no nits with the recording, its just damn good.
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cmhansen
New member
Sounds like a slow andante. 
Nice playing on the violins. I have no nits either. And I don't think it's to long.
Nice playing on the violins. I have no nits either. And I don't think it's to long.
drossfile
nope
i can't imagine why you'd think this is too long. i didn't want it to stop.
i notice that your soundclick profile pic is an electric. if what you're playing on this track is an electric violin, i want whatever you bought (i'm assuming it's not).
the mix is simply perfect. i'll be listening to this regularly. honestly, the only classical piece i find more satisfying is rachmaninov's scherzo for orchestra in d minor (of which i hope to one day do a metal version of), and maybe--MAYBE--some of chopin's nocturnes.
imagine, a metalhead with some culture!
i notice that your soundclick profile pic is an electric. if what you're playing on this track is an electric violin, i want whatever you bought (i'm assuming it's not).
the mix is simply perfect. i'll be listening to this regularly. honestly, the only classical piece i find more satisfying is rachmaninov's scherzo for orchestra in d minor (of which i hope to one day do a metal version of), and maybe--MAYBE--some of chopin's nocturnes.
imagine, a metalhead with some culture!
rayc
retroreprobate
Faux Bach de la Presley - this'd be Sobbin' All Over then! Probably heavily copped by Procul Harum.
I love dirges - (as you know my all time fav is the Death of Ase) where would Godfather movie themes be without this piece?
Too Long? NAH! Too cool? YEAH!
Your solo has a nice forlorn gypsy tone to it.
I like the layered organ - it Brings Bach Bark! Sorry. Did Du Pres every get her 'cello around this? That'd be worth a listen as she could really wring emotion with out sentimentality (though she was prone to a little of that too).
Ah, where was I?
Yes, David. This is going well. I wouldn't edit it shorter as any one who stayed beyond the second minute is there for the whole journey.
Did you contemplate a cathedral reverb? It'd have to have been a temptation - if only for a quick listen.
Lovely tag too!
I love dirges - (as you know my all time fav is the Death of Ase) where would Godfather movie themes be without this piece?
Too Long? NAH! Too cool? YEAH!
Your solo has a nice forlorn gypsy tone to it.
I like the layered organ - it Brings Bach Bark! Sorry. Did Du Pres every get her 'cello around this? That'd be worth a listen as she could really wring emotion with out sentimentality (though she was prone to a little of that too).
Ah, where was I?
Yes, David. This is going well. I wouldn't edit it shorter as any one who stayed beyond the second minute is there for the whole journey.
Did you contemplate a cathedral reverb? It'd have to have been a temptation - if only for a quick listen.
Lovely tag too!
G
Greg_L
Banned
Sounds good David, but I'm hearing clicks with the note changes on the organ. Is that the keys bottoming out, or is the player wearing rings or something?
Xeries
Earth Member
Nonetheless, I think my version is too long.
I have to agree with the comments here that it is not too long. It's beautifully done and about two and a half minutes shorter than the one you linked above.
DavidK
New member
Thanks for listening CM, Naka, Ray, drossfile, Greg.
Good ears. One of the patches is called "click organ". I thought it was purdy.
There is also some noise in here I need to edit better. Whenever you are overdubbing 40+ tracks in a room with cats, near the road, there is always a lot of editing work to do.
There is one on the main strings. The solo violin needs redone, its not fitting in and I could play it much better. It needs a better reverb.
This one aint done. I am hearing a few things I can do, thanks all for the groovy comments.
Good ears. One of the patches is called "click organ".
I thought it was purdy. There is also some noise in here I need to edit better. Whenever you are overdubbing 40+ tracks in a room with cats, near the road, there is always a lot of editing work to do.There is one on the main strings. The solo violin needs redone, its not fitting in and I could play it much better. It needs a better reverb.
Nonetheless, I think you were on to something in your previous comments. Its a bit stagnant. I think I can fix it through mixing, by bringing out some of the moving lines at times.
This one aint done. I am hearing a few things I can do, thanks all for the groovy comments.
eyema_believer
Bondservant
I love this song!
This sounds so good, I started playing along with it ala Yngwie Malmsteen and fergot to comment last night.
Good Job, David!!
Yay!!
~Shawn
This sounds so good, I started playing along with it ala Yngwie Malmsteen and fergot to comment last night.
Good Job, David!!
Yay!!
~Shawn
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dementedchord
Psychotic State alumni ch
excellent work brother...
eyema_believer
Bondservant
David,
Brother, I wonder if you would mind sharing some of your secrets? I'll assume that you will divulge some info, and go ahead and ask some questions. Thanks in advance!!
When the strings start the melody. the "swell" of the notes in incredible. Can you share what sample/keyboard/sound module you have used here, if in fact this is not acoustic strings? Also, what technique did you use to get them to sound like that?
Thanks for sharing!
~Shawn
Brother, I wonder if you would mind sharing some of your secrets? I'll assume that you will divulge some info, and go ahead and ask some questions. Thanks in advance!!
When the strings start the melody. the "swell" of the notes in incredible. Can you share what sample/keyboard/sound module you have used here, if in fact this is not acoustic strings? Also, what technique did you use to get them to sound like that?
Thanks for sharing!
~Shawn
DavidK
New member
Thanks for listening, Demented and Eyema.
I'm a violinist. This is real, there are layers and layers of overdubbed violins. There are 12 firsts, 9 seconds and 6 violas. The violas (played on violin) are mixed with a synth patch. Low strings are synths, 3 of them combined. The organ is a Yamaha mm6, two patches mixed. All the parts are heavily eq'ed, mainly high cuts. A violin in a living room is a noisy bugger, so 12 of them together is going to be insanely noisy, let alone the noise room from 12 takes. The high cut is the overdubbers best friend.
Recording the fiddles was childs play. Recording the other stuff was the hard part. There are lots of tempo fluctuations. I recorded the Organ and Basses in tempo, then went and altered the tempo map substantially to make it sound real.
I'm a violinist.
This is real, there are layers and layers of overdubbed violins. There are 12 firsts, 9 seconds and 6 violas. The violas (played on violin) are mixed with a synth patch. Low strings are synths, 3 of them combined. The organ is a Yamaha mm6, two patches mixed. All the parts are heavily eq'ed, mainly high cuts. A violin in a living room is a noisy bugger, so 12 of them together is going to be insanely noisy, let alone the noise room from 12 takes. The high cut is the overdubbers best friend.Recording the fiddles was childs play. Recording the other stuff was the hard part. There are lots of tempo fluctuations. I recorded the Organ and Basses in tempo, then went and altered the tempo map substantially to make it sound real.
eyema_believer
Bondservant
Awesome!
I'm doing some songs right now that feature strings, and my synth patches will never come up with what you've done. Go figure, huh?
I'm going to pm you a song, in hopes that you will listen and have some tips!
Thanks David! You rock!
~Shawn
I'm doing some songs right now that feature strings, and my synth patches will never come up with what you've done. Go figure, huh?
I'm going to pm you a song, in hopes that you will listen and have some tips!
Thanks David! You rock!
~Shawn
DavidK
New member
What kinds of synths do you use? www.synful.com has a usable 15 day demo. Try it, its weird but it can get results. Listen to some of the samples on that site, they are very impressive.