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This is the first rap beat that I made that cats actually liked, and rapped on.
THis is the last vocal recording I am doing with my shure sm58. I'm getting two condensers next week.

I am continually amazed at the improvement Iv got with sweet converters and a sweet preamp. THat and with 85dbs monitoring took my mixes one or two notches higher, which means that I still have about 50 notches to go. For the next step, I am going for an external reverb. THese plugins sound like tin.

PLease tell me if there is something I am not hearing. THere is a lot of adult language in this song

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its at the very bottom of the page and the download works. I dont know if it will stream though.
 
That's worldclass rapping and a good beat (don't like the snare tho).. aaah.. get rid of the funny voice..

I'm impressed.
 
I'm ambivalent about the funny voice... it goes on a little too long though.

The rest of the vox are full, and clear. Sounds damn good. You've got some talented friends.

I like the reverb. It doesn't sound natural, but... so what. Sonitus Ultrafunk is a good reverb plug. I'd give the demo a shot, before laying down a lot of cash on an outboard. I regret purchasing my Lex mpx500. Not cuz it's a bad verb. I just never use it

And your bead ain't so bad either. Maybe a little thicker snare.

-Jett
 
oh, the snare.

I had a feeling you cats might not like it. I should have changed it for a phat snare. And I had the perfect one too.

Jet-rocker. If you are not using your mpx500, sell it to me . I've got money for it right now. You can use that money to buy a myriad of other gear.

pm or email me if you are interested.

Thanks guys.

A question. I pichshifted the chorus -23 and +20 cents and also delayed both copis by a few ms. Does this render it intelligible?
 
I really like the vocal sound, it works well. I don't like the backing tracks though...way too sparse. The sounds don't come together in a natural way. Reverb might help that.

Of course I'm not much of a rap guy...maybe that's how the homies do it these days :) Bring back the FAT BOYS! :)

Slackmater 2000
 
Also, if you could get ahold of some helium...the "funny voice" would sound a lot nicer I think. Whatever pitch shifter you used on it kind of made it sound weird.

Slackmaster 2000
 
hey slackmaster2k,

tell me more. I am feeling the incoherence of this mix. I wish it had the balance that I hear from buck62 or sonusman.

Apart from reverb, what other tricks can you suggest. Is the panning unreal? Is the limiting over-aggresive? I want to know so that I can keep improving.

I noticed that you like full arrangements. I dont really see anything wrong with this one, but if you could give me some ideas, maybe I will see it then. Its amazing what one sees only after suggestions have been made.

Thanks
 
Well, I'm just as new or newer at all this than you are, so while I can criticize, I can't exactly tell you what should be done.

However, reverb is probably a good first step. I've found that it can really be the glue that holds things together. Just recently I've started to use more reverb on my electronic stuff. The last few electronic songs I did were totally dry, and when I listen back on them now it was a mistake to leave them that way. Get a decent reverb plugin and experiment with some subtle wetness. It's amazing how much depth you can add to a sound without it even SOUNDING like reverb. When I thought of reverb I always used to think of long trails...the stereotypical reverb sound...now I try think more about how instruments sound in real rooms, and try to use the reverb to create the desired sound. But it's soooo fricking hard...so many knobs, so little time :) Ed (sonusman) really got me to start listening to various environments and how things sound sound in them...it's stuff we're so acustom to that sometimes we don't pay much attention to it. So far I'm only at a point where I'm just starting to get it...so I can't help much specifically without giving bullshit advice. I still do think that the backing tracks on this one are too dry and need some help to sound more natural and cohereant....sorry that's all I can offer :) :(

Slackmaster 2000
 
hey thanks slackmaster2k.

One day , I will be aable to use reverb in a way that I understand. I dont like the rooms I have with the current plugins so I use as little of it as possible. I cant wait till I get a lexicon mpx500 and a roland srv330
 
All this talk about reverb has made give this another listen.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think this needs reverb. I think that the Vocal and music sit fine together.

I'm definetly not an expert on this type of music, but sounds like some of the old school stuff I've been exposed to.

What is could use?? I think that what is there is good and fits well together, but if you need a fuller sound...

Maybe some variation in the samples towards the end.

Some back up vox, maybe female. Chorused and compressed. Near the end, matching that organ melody that runs through the song, to give it more impact?

A thicker snare, not necesarrily more realistic.

I guess after a few listens, I'm not so crazy bout the midget voice. I like the low voice in that section of the song though.

The song is good already, it just depends on what you're going for.

-Jett
 
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