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where can i buy sound proofing in the UK?

should i use genral PA speakers or monitors?

if i buy a pair of powerd monitors i wont need a amp, will i?

would the Rode Nt1A - Studio Condenser Microphone be ok to record vocals?

do you have to use an interface to record on the computer or can you use a genral mixing desk?
 
dunno about studio "sound proofing" in the UK, google Aurelex

buy a pair of close reference monitors for your studio

powered or active monitors have their own amp built in

yes, the Rode Nt1a will record your vocals, I use a K2 and love it

you need a ad (analog-digital) interface to record to a computer and a da (digital-analog) interface to get the sound back out (ie soundcard).... a mixing desk wont do it, unless it has a usb or firefire connection built-in for this purpose...Alesis and Mackie make these types of mixing consoles...or you can get a Personus Firepod, station etc.
 
i don't understand :confused:, has anyone got a diagram of the sorta layout that it is?

would thing work?

Computer > Mixing Desks > Interface > Other Equipment

if so how would you set it out
 
All right, I will go over the standard-ish setup most people in homerecording situations seem to have.

The Rode NT-1A is a decent place to start, although I would search the mic forum and do some research on a different condenser for around that price range (200, i believe). You can probably get something better for the price, perhaps a little less harsh-sounding.

The mic needs phantom power (if its a condenser, short answer), and a preamp to push the signal up to line-level. We will discuss this momentarily.

Next in line you need some kind of analog-digital converter to get that line-level signal into the digital realm, to record on your computer. You will also need some sort of recording software. If you are using a PC, REAPER is a very good program to start with... Hell, to work with in general. If you have a Mac, there is Audacity, but it has some inherent problems, such as the fact that you cannot use plugins to process audio as it plays back (will explain in a bit**).

So, after you have your mic, you can go one of two routes - you can buy a preamp that is just a preamp, such as an M-Audio DMP-3, which I like very much, especially for the price (~160USD). Then you would need a separate interface that connects to your computer via USB or firewire, and plug the line-level output from the preamp to the input on the interface. Then in your software, you would enable a track to record, and set the input to whatever channel on the interface you had previously run your mic & pre into.

Your other option, which is cheaper and simpler in terms of connecting everything together, is to get an interface that has mic preamps built in. The only one I've used that has all these features and works well is the Presonus Firebox:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...bit96kHz-FireWire-Recording-System?sku=184133

Its a little more expensive than the 100 dollar "starter" interfaces that might have mic pre's built-in, but chances are the preamps are going to be garbage, or they may be none-existant. At which point you would need to buy a separate preamp anyway, so let's stick with this recommendation for the moment.

This particular one worked well for me because the Firebox has decent preamps, and comes with Cubase LE, which will get you started and on the way to making some decent recordings. Of course, I don't know how many instruments and other things you plan on recording. If it's JUST vocals over some canned drum loops or something, you probably don't need something this complicated.

On to monitors. Most will tell you, and I agree, that monitors are a very important part of the recording/mixing chain, because they reproduce (or should, anyway), an accurate representation of what has been recorded. On any sort of realistic budget, you aren't going to get amazing monitors. Honestly, for the moment, I would say get a decent pair of full-covering headphones, and use them to monitor tracks already recorded while you layer new stuff, and then perhaps a little ways down the line, worry about buying the monitors. Just my opinion though, as it is how I started, and investing wisely in other parts of the chain first, verses buying everything cheaper to accomodate the purchase of monitors, was a good plan on my part.

So to sum up, you could do something like the following, which takes into consideration what I discussed above:

Rode NT-1A or Studio Projects B-1 -> mic cable -> Presonus Firebox -> firewire cable -> computer -> Cubase LE.

There are many other ways of going about doing this, but this is one way that will yield decent results. Without any sort of room treatment, you are working against a lot of factors, but its a place to get off the ground.

**Audacity for the Mac**

Most audio recording / processing programs use "plug-ins", which you insert on a track or send tracks to for certain audio processing. Most of them process the audio in realtime, as you play the track back, so that you can make adjustments, etc.

Audacity does not have the capability of having plug-ins installed. It has its own built-in processing, such as compression, delay, reverb, etc. These effects have to applied to a track before you can play the track back, and once you apply the effect and save, the effect is there and it cannot be removed. Since this is the less common way of doing things, if you are on a Mac, I highly recommend you use a different program, even if you have to invest a little more money. This is why, since I have a powerBook, it was wise to invest in the Firebox, since, for 300 bucks, I got the interface with decent mic preamps, as well as Cubase LE, which is a stripped down version of a very good, professional program.
 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!!! at last someone actually explains it to me. i think what im going to do is get the:

Behringer XENYX 2442FX Mixing Console (With USB, dont know how it works but yeah lol)

The The Rode NT-1A package off of amazon

A pair of Behringer TRUTH B2031A studio monitors

and whatever's left off my budget (£800) i think it will be about £156 left over, any ideas?
 
and whatever's left off my budget (£800) i think it will be about £156 left over, any ideas?

Bass traps. Not sure if these people ship outside of US but try:
http://www.atsacoustics.com/

Or other places in your area. Best way to spend the extra money in my opinion.

Don't forget about cables, probably headphones, mic stands, and all the other accessories.
 
Bass traps. Not sure if these people ship outside of US but try:
http://www.atsacoustics.com/

Or other places in your area. Best way to spend the extra money in my opinion.

Don't forget about cables, probably headphones, mic stands, and all the other accessories.

Yea, good place to start as well for some minimal room treatment. Are you using a PC or a Mac?
 
If you read my longer post, I mentioned the free program Reaper, which is very good for starting out. However, it is only available for PC - just making sure you can use it, because otherwise we would have to come up with something else, especially since it doesn't look like the gear you are interested in buying comes with any software of any kind.
 
my room that im using is:
(W) 19ft / (L) 12ft / (H) 8ft

that will cost quiet a bit in that acoustic treatment wont it or dou you only cover a certin place, if so what place?
 
You will need some full-frequency absorbers to take care of the direct reflections from the speakers. So, one behind each speaker, one to your left, one to your right, one in the ceiling, and some at the back wall. You should also try to break up any flutter echoes in the room. You can find these by clapping your hands together and listen for where it goes 'prrrrrrrring' basically parallell surfaces are bad, and things such as bookshelves with diffent size books help breaking this up. You can also build or buy diffusers, which serve the same purpose.

There is some discussion regarding bass traps made of porous materials such as rockwool. the scientific facts say that you'll need serveral feet of rockwool (or other porous material) to properly take care of bass problems, still these product are being advertised as bass traps. (I don't really know what to think about this...) Real bass traps are either based on big panels that resonate with bass frequencies, or so called Helmotz resonators (try google)

Regarding what gear to buy, I think you need to think about what you want it to do.

Unless you're recording drums, or serveral instruments at once, you're not gonna need a mixing desk. Also, look into getting some used monitors. I got my tannoy reveals for about £200, which is less than half of what they cost new.

If you do decide that you need a mixing desk, there will be preamps in it, and you could get a sound card without built in preamps. Also, there's no point in getting a 24 channel mixing desk if your soundcard only has 2 outputs. You need 1 soundcard output for each ('tape return') channel that you intend to use.
 

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