96 khz recording. Ignorant Question

[CyanJaguar]

hi guys,

My recorder can do 96 khz rates. I would like to know,
Do I have to have a digital preamp that outputs 96khz to get 96khz sampled vocals, or is my analog machine able to output whatever my recorder is inputting?

for example, can I set my delta 1010 to record 96khz and actually get 96khz out of the outputs of my joemeek preamp?

I know this is an ignorant question, but at least I will know the answer after today.

thanks

 

[Jon X]

Here's my guess

From what I understand, you would be using analog outputs from the Joe Meek? Coming from the meek to the 1010 you can have whatever analog signal you want, and where the digital rates start to take effect is when the sound is converted to digital via the convertors in the 1010. Therefore, whatever you set the 1010 to, that's what you'll get.

Maybe there's a better explanation, or a more precise one as to when the 96khz would start to matter, but I think that's the basics of it.

 

[drstawl]

Yeah- JonX had it right. Focus on where the actual conversion takes place. If you're routing analog signals to your recorder the conversion will be done by the 1010.
If you send a digital signal, the conversion will be done by the pre or after the pre. It all depends on which converters are better. The 1010 or whatever else you use.
The dbx 386 does what you want. It has the ability to output in analog or in digital up to 24/96 in resolution.
But to answer your question.
Look at the outputs on the Meek.
Any S/PDIF or AES/EBU ports?

 

[James HE]

I think I know what he's getting at...

(he he I know I'm going to mess this up, look out he's going to talk through his ass) at 41.1k you actually get resolution up to 20Khz, (half of the sampling rate) at 48K it's 24Khz, at 96K it's up there with what dogs can hear I suppose, but what matters is what we can hear, which I think is not much over 24Khz. Ok maybe my numbers are off, but you get the idea.
So is your other eqipment putting out these frequencies? In most cases no, but having the higher sampling rate can make some difference as far as the depth of the sound.

ok sombody clear uo what I just said, I have the basics, but I think I'm a little off the mark....

when I got my card I jumped right into doing everthing 96K. bad idea. My system can't handle it as easily. The small (indistinguishable) gain in sound quality dosen't even come close to making up for the lack of performance. If you are doing just a few tracks, go for it, it might make a difference. But for serious mutitracking, you are better of at 48K.

-jhe

 

[twist]

It's an apples and oranges kind of thing. 96khz is the sampling rate for the digital signals being handled by the card. The output of the Joe Meek is undoubtedly analog,so it is characterized in a different way ie: dynamic range, and bandwidth.

I understand your question though, and correct, if you wanted to transfer your vocal to your sound card at 24/96, you would need a pre-amp with digital outputs.

If it's the quality that your concerned about, I wouldn't worry. Sound starts out as analog after all,so let it be analog untill your 1010 converts it to digital, so that your computer knows what the heck it is.

The joe Meek is a good unit, and shouldn't degrade your signal, in fact you normally purchase a mic pre-amp for its analog characteristics - gain, warmth,color , whatever. So dont worry about 24/96 at that level, just hook it up and sing.


Twist