8ch A/D-D/A, mic pres, ADAT, $249

  • Thread starter Thread starter John W. LeBlanc
  • Start date Start date
J

John W. LeBlanc

New member
The company so many love to hate, Behringer, is releasing one hell of a new rack unit in the third quarter of this year. Eight channels of A/D and D/A, mic pres based on the new IMP design with phantom power, ADAT interface, with a MSRP of $249. Yeah, it's 44.1/48 only. But it's also $249. That's nuts.

The A/D is rated at 103dB (64x oversampling) and the D/A is rated at 100dB (128x oversampling.) I'd be interested to know which chips they are using.

They've also planned a rack mount version of the V-AMP ($269). Stereo balanced outs, 24/96k digital outs (AES/EBU and S/PDIF), and pre- and post-send/return.

The URL for the new A/D-D/a unit is:
http://www.behringer.com/02_products/prodindex.cfm?id=ADA8000&lang=eng

The V-AMP rack is:
http://www.behringer.com/LX1-PRO/index.cfm?mid=2&smid=6&lang=eng

May we live in interesting times...

John LeBlanc
Houston, TX
 
John W. LeBlanc said:
The company so many love to hate, Behringer, is releasing one hell of a new rack unit in the third quarter of this year.
Click to expand...

For some reason I'm not excited by this.
 
I guess if 4 of the 8 converters work you're gonna be a lucky person.
 
i found another by event called the EMP 8? or 8000? something like that. Anyways they make one too, but i think its around the 500 buck range.......might be a little better than the behringer though : )

I like digimaxLT.........it works nicely with the digi001
 
Anyone have one of these yet? I got one on order...I hear they suck ass. But the crap im using now not only sucks ass its just plain shit. So for $199 and free shipping im gonna got from plain shit to suck ass with some plain shit on the side.
 
I may buy 2 of them... I'm planing to record live. this my be useful! I'll check this out soon.
 
The whole idea with buying separate A/D D/A is to improve the sound over the A/D D/A that you already have..... I guess this unit won't do much to improve nothing.
 
REALLY!!!???

I JUST CAN"T WAIT TO BUY THIS NEW BEHRINGER PRODUCT!!

OH-BOY OH BOY!!

THIS THING LOOKS LIKE IT"S GONNA MAKE NEW WAVES IN THE RECORDING WORLD!!!!!!



I smoke crack-cocaine.
 
John W. LeBlanc said:
I'd be interested to know which chips they are using.
Click to expand...

FYI all soundcard, & standalone converters...use pretty much the same couple of chips. I think the 5000 benchmarks have the same chip as the 500 Delta1010...the difference is the analog section in each unit...one is great...and one has so many corners cut its almost a perfect circle...
 
Re: Re: 8ch A/D-D/A, mic pres, ADAT, $249

Teacher said:
FYI all soundcard, & standalone converters...use pretty much the same couple of chips. I think the 5000 benchmarks have the same chip as the 500 Delta1010...the difference is the analog section in each unit...one is great...and one has so many corners cut its almost a perfect circle...
Click to expand...

It's been almost six months since I posted that Behringer announcement and I still haven't seen the guts of the unit, nor can I get a copy of the schematics. It's worth $200 to play with it, though, I can guarantee you that much.

It's good to remember that one of the primary users of this unit is an owner of the digital mixing console.

As for the AD/DA converters, Behringer has been using both Crystal and AKM converters, but since this unit only had to do 41.1 and 48KHz at 24 bits, they don't have to poke out for newest technology -- another thing that helps keep end cost down.

The IMP mic pres are standard plugin units for just about all of their current mixing consoles and rack gear -- another thing that keeps the price down.

If they could source the ADAT 1401 gen and 1402 rec chips cheaper than Alesis (at around $4 a chip), I'll bet the ADA8000 could be even cheaper that $249 list. A wild thought, isn't it?

It's sort of funny to see nasty comments about Behringer gear, especially something that hasn't been heard, yet. Regardless, I wouldn't dream of putting this unit up against my Mytec or Lucid in the studio, but I wouldn't dream of pulling the Mytec or Lucid stuff out to bring into the field, either.

Behringer, for the most part, is consumer grade audio stuff. Many of their pieces are adequate to accomplish a certain grade of audio recording and there's nothing at all wrong with that. Calling it "pro" gear though, I do take issue with.

John LeBlanc
Houston, TX
 
Re: Re: Re: 8ch A/D-D/A, mic pres, ADAT, $249

John W. LeBlanc said:
It's worth $200 to play with it, though, I can guarantee you that much.
Click to expand...

Actually, you can't guarantee that much! I wouldn't spend $200 to audition it.

The ADA 8000 I/O jack design is awkward in my opinion. They should have put the 1/4" inputs on the rear of the unit. With them on the front this unit is not really set up well as an AD for synths. The reason being that it would be much easier to patch it into a patch panel (or synths) from the rear. As it is now, it wastes a rack space and requires the unit be racked near the patch bay.

Front panel inputs for mics is okay. Front panel inputs for the 1/4" inputs is not convenient or useful.

Being (formerly) mildly interested in the ADA 8000 as an extra converter for my synths, to an ADAT input on my mixer, I find the fact that the inputs are on the front to make it nearly useless as far as integrating with my studio. I just don't want a snake hanging off the front of my rack, and I don't have the space to rack this right next to my patch bays. A DB25 connector in back would have been better than the current design.

My opinion anyway.
 
patching point... I have some cables in front of my rack... I simply leave a free rack space where I have to, to get the cables thru.

why do I write this...dunno, not really important.

Maybe I'm just glad to get over my 325 post
 
...8pre's

could this be maybe be also called a "Tape Hiss Noise Generator"....to get that "old time cheap 8 track tape sound?"

Will this be named the "ULTRA PRO 8 MIC PRE'S" for $69.99?
$250 MSRP...

heee,hee
i make myself laugh...ok Behringer helps....I'm sick of returning Behringer crap.

This is like me enjoying the 3630 for years, thinking it was great, when in reality I had never compared it to anything, except a Behringer...which I took back immediately.

Is Behringer really openning up a fast food chain..I saw that post?
Ultra Pro-Burgers....
 
I'm upset that they didn't add the world famous Behringer Tube Circuit to this unit.
 
Known I'm gonna get stoned for this (and not the good kind of "stoned", but here it goes...
...I have the Behringer Euro 1832pro mixer, and a Power Play Pro headphone amp...and I'm happy with both. The mixer is quite as a mouse, and the pre's sound good. The onboard effects are a joke, but I didn't expect anything from them anyway. I wouldn't say it is road rugged, but it does just fine in a home studio. It's not a Mackie, but for 1/4 the price of a Mackie with only 2/3's the features, it's close enough for someone on a budget. It has never failed me in any way. I use it for recording and live sound ("live" being a bunch of friends jamming in the studio thru a power amp and JBL's). Although it is being replaced as a main board for recording by a Mackie 1604, it will still have it's use as key gear in my home studio. I have to say the it is the only gear I have ever bought that I found to really be worth the Money. Although the Mackie is a level up (mostly for the 60mm faders IMHO), it's not a high enough level to justify the price.
The headphone amp does it's job. It could use a little more power. I record mostly with V-sessions, so this unit serves me well. However I could see where it might not be loud enough for drummers recording A's. For the $100 price tag it is a good deal.
I find most people that bash Behringer with no real time spent on any Behringer product. The ones that have to return one once in awhile forget that this can happen with any brand (Been thru 2 TD-10's from Roland now.....new one works like a champ, though).
BTW...Mackie is now making alot of it's parts overseas without passing on any of the savings to the consumer....A Gibson Les Paul Custom cost $2700 and is not even hand made...my Sony 7506 headphones at a cost of $120 still bleed....As a musician I have felt that these companies have been price gouging the lot of us for years, it's nice to see a company say "See it can be done cheaper".:o
 
I agree with all the people who say bashing behringer isn't cool. I mean, they do what they do great! And what they do is make cheap gear that performs. Passibly. For those who don't know the difference. Some people don't care.

I used to be all about the Mackie 1604s, but now i wouldn't buy one, i don't think. They're GREAT live consoles, but not my ideal tracking console.

Would I be far off if i suggested going with a Soundcraft board instead?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top