2x12, 4x12, what you like?

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Shoot, I can't lift the previous 2 X 12 I built. It's made of doubled-up 3/4" MDF with 3/4" plywood baffle and back, and it weighs, like, a fucking ton.

And according to recordman it sounds like crap. :laughings:

Why in the hell would you make a guitar cabinet made out of 1.5" thick MDF? I just built a competition car audio subwoofer box that houses 2000 RMS watts of subwoofers for a guy and went with 3/4" MDF for the sides and back and 3/4" MDF laminated to 18mm baltic birch for the baffle with a lot of bracing. Good lord.

I didn't say your cab sounds like crap but clearly it sounds like it's completely over done and will sit in a corner somewhere until the owner realizes it is retarded and decides to wheel it to the curb.
 
Why in the hell would you make a guitar cabinet made out of 1.5" thick MDF? I just built a competition car audio subwoofer box that houses 2000 RMS watts of subwoofers for a guy and went with 3/4" MDF for the sides and back and 3/4" MDF laminated to 18mm baltic birch for the baffle with a lot of bracing. Good lord.

I didn't say your cab sounds like crap but clearly it sounds like it's completely over done and will sit in a corner somewhere until the owner realizes it is retarded and decides to wheel it to the curb.
You do have quite the internet manner, don't you? :rolleyes:

Why did I build it that way? As an experiment, to see what a pair of Celestion G12K-85s driven by a 100-watt tube amp would sound like with very little cabinet coloration. It was a low cost experiment that yielded a good-sounding box, albeit one that needs to be pushed to open up.

As far as utility goes, it's no harder to get around than your average 4 X 12 or largish PA cab.

You, sir, are the one that's looking more retarded with every post.
 
3/4" MDF laminated to 18mm baltic birch for the baffle with a lot of bracing. Good lord.
I used Baltic Birch for my Loft Bed shear panels. That stuff rocks.

May I suggest that the 1.5" MDF is an effective theft deterrent and/or shrapnel absorber and won't degrade the sound one bit over the 3/4" stuff. ;)
:D
 
May I suggest that the 1.5" MDF is an effective theft deterrent and/or shrapnel absorber and won't degrade the sound one bit over the 3/4" stuff. ;) :D
If the thing ever came apart it would be a sight to behold, I can tell ya that. :laughings:
 
You do have quite the internet manner, don't you? :rolleyes:

Why did I build it that way? As an experiment, to see what a pair of Celestion G12K-85s driven by a 100-watt tube amp would sound like with very little cabinet coloration. It was a low cost experiment that yielded a good-sounding box, albeit one that needs to be pushed to open up.

As far as utility goes, it's no harder to get around than your average 4 X 12 or largish PA cab.

You, sir, are the one that's looking more retarded with every post.

Ok fair enough but since you guys praise Marshall cabs...just so you know the 1960's are 1/2" plywood on the sides, 5/8" plywood baffle (nominal measurements) and a 3/4" MDF back only because it's 75% cheaper than using up more 1/2" (12mm) baltic birch.
 
Ok fair enough but since you guys praise Marshall cabs...just so you know the 1960's are 1/2" plywood on the sides, 5/8" plywood baffle (nominal measurements) and a 3/4" MDF back only because it's 75% cheaper than using up more 1/2" (12mm) baltic birch.

No question, some of the Marshall cabs are crap.

I think it's pretty well known that Jim Marshall designed the original 4 X 12s by the seat of his pants, making a box just big enough to put those speakers into. It just goes to show that what becomes a "classic" sound has as much to do with acceptance as it does anything else.
 
I like what works and can take a beating. That's all that really matters to me, an oversized 2x12 or a deep, straight 4x12. SUNN O))) ALL THE WAY. I've just picked up a mid-late 70's 412L, it's a straight, deep as an Ampeg SVT 8x10e taller and wider than just about any 4x12 on the market (it doesn't weigh much more than any moder cabs either, +1) and it's got the original Sunn Transducers in it.

Curious as to what recordman has to say about it.
 
I like what works and can take a beating. That's all that really matters to me, an oversized 2x12 or a deep, straight 4x12. SUNN O))) ALL THE WAY. I've just picked up a mid-late 70's 412L, it's a straight, deep as an Ampeg SVT 8x10e taller and wider than just about any 4x12 on the market (it doesn't weigh much more than any moder cabs either, +1) and it's got the original Sunn Transducers in it.

Curious as to what recordman has to say about it.

I'm a fan. I used to have a SUNN 4x12 in my teenage days and I really loved it. My neighbor had the whole half stack tucked away in his garage for decades and it was in mint condition. Now that is to say I didn't know anything about guitar tone then but it has good memories in my mind.
 
Plugged my amp into a 4X12 stack in a large studio room and was blown away by the ambiance of that lively room, no doubt that four 12's give electric guitar a voice, built on later.

If I am jamming in small clubs, a 2X12 suits me fine.

At home a single twelve will work, I found the big stack kind of deafening, hauling a full stack is heavy, half stack easier to move.
 
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