10 best rock drummers?

[PhilGood]

10. Why not: Meg White: I've seen her live, It was a great show. The most simple drumming I have seen. But, it was unique. It was never Boring. Who knows, Maybe she can encourage more women Drummers.

No one's bagging on women drummers! There are some excellent women drummers out there! Terry Lynn Carrington is one of the best drummers in the world!!! SHE deserves to be called that because she has great skill!

Meg White does not. For her to be in any list of top 10 drummers is just flat-out ridiculous!! I enjoy Meg's drumming and a couple Stripes songs.

I enjoy listening to her play in the same way I enjoy watching the 8th grade jazz ensemble perform. Would I list any of those drummers as great??

Probably before I listed Meg!

BTW, I would list Lenny Kravitz' drummer Cindy Blackman waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy before I listed Meg.

 

[Supercreep]

Steve Gadd is probably my favorite right now.

I'm also diggin' on Jeff Pocaro.

 

[JenniferNorth]

No one's bagging on women drummers! There are some excellent women drummers out there! Terry Lynn Carrington is one of the best drummers in the world!!! SHE deserves to be called that because she has great skill!

Meg White does not. For her to be in any list of top 10 drummers is just flat-out ridiculous!! I enjoy Meg's drumming and a couple Stripes songs.

I enjoy listening to her play in the same way I enjoy watching the 8th grade jazz ensemble perform. Would I list any of those drummers as great??

Probably before I listed Meg!

BTW, I would list Lenny Kravitz' drummer Cindy Blackman waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy before I listed Meg.

Oh yeah, you are absolutely right. Fuck Meg White...what was I thinking. I promise, if I ever see her I will hit her with a rock.

It was just my opinion on drummers, that I happen to enjoy their contribution to the songs they have played on. Do you have any other advice on what I should appreciate? I like Pepsi...should I drink Coke? My Political affiliation, maybe? What kind of car do you drive? I want to be just like you.

Help Me PhilGood!!!

 

[the inhabitant]

I heard a rumor about Paul having played drums on that. That it was recorded around the time of his departure. I just assumed the last 2 minutes were overdubbed by ringo when he came back(very ringo) and the paul had played drums for the Basic tracks. Since the first 3 minutes of the song are really simple. I thought it was worth mentioning. I have read that from a few sources.

Try these links if you would like to read about the session.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_Prudence

http://aboutthebeatles.com/song-dear_prudence.html

Interesting. I got my info from some books of Beatles guitar tabs that gives background on the songs and I think I also read it in the "Anthology" book. Maybe I'll have to look again. Paul plays drums on his first album and they all sound very basic like Back in the USSR...

 

[PhilGood]

Oh yeah, you are absolutely right. Fuck Meg White...what was I thinking. I promise, if I ever see her I will hit her with a rock.

It was just my opinion on drummers, that I happen to enjoy their contribution to the songs they have played on. Do you have any other advice on what I should appreciate? I like Pepsi...should I drink Coke? My Political affiliation, maybe? What kind of car do you drive? I want to be just like you.

Help Me PhilGood!!!

I didn't say "Fuck Meg White"! I'm simply saying she's not good enough to consider a great drummer! Did you even read the title of the thread?? It's not "drummers I like", it's "10 best rock drummers". If you like William Hung - FINE!!! Don't tell me he's a great singer though, because that would just be plain stupid.

Personally (as I've said all along) the whole concept of "best drummer" is a stupid thread idea to say the least! It's not possible to have the best as it's all subjective.

I don't care what you listen to! All I'm saying is that you're insulting a lot of great talent and exposing how little you know/care about percussion when you include mediocre talent like Meg in a "best drummer" thread!

Jeeeeeeez, get a grip!

 

[JenniferNorth]

God Damn, Why are you bothering yourself with this?

It is subjective. But, I don't think it's a stupid thread. I like to see and hear musicians that I haven't been exposed to. I wanted to see some different names on the subject. Maybe slightly more unconventional drummers that deserve more respect than they get. (like say...Dan Taylor from the Silver Apples.) What good would it be if all 10 names were the same. Cindy Blackman is a fine drummer...But, I think her overall sound could be easily duplicated by alot of drummers(Not by Meg, of coarse). But, If you Replaced Meg White with a more Technical drummer the White Stripes would sound, well, like the Raconteurs. And, it is Her unique, although sub-standard drumming that is necessary for that sound. The same argument could be made for the Velvet Underground. As I said before this is only an opinion.

So if it is a stupid thread...and, if it is impossible to have a best. Then why is my opinion less valid than yours. Other than the fact that I know so little about percussion.

 

[PhilGood]

If you Replaced Meg White with a more Technical drummer the White Stripes would sound, well, like the Raconteurs. And, it is Her unique, although sub-standard drumming that is necessary for that sound. The same argument could be made for the Velvet Underground. As I said before this is only an opinion.

I totally agree. If you replaced Meg with a technical drummer it would not sound like the White Stripes. It's completely a part of the sound that makes them. To tell the truth, if you replaced Meg, then it would just sound like a bad guitarist with a good drummer and the style would be ruined.

That still doesn't make Meg a good drummer. It makes Jack look good because that's the sound he wants!

Your opinion is no less valid than anyone else, but whenever you offer an opinion you have to be ready to face a counter opinion. That's the way the world works! Not everyone will agree with you and that doesn't mean that person is "closed minded".

To be "open minded" means you give something a chance and then decide wether or not you like it. It doesn't mean that if you don't like it that you are "closed minded". That's a weak argument. If someone doesn't agree with you, you don't have to throw out "closed minded" or "machismo" to strengthen your argument. That's grasping at straws.

I listened to the stripes, liked some of the stuff, hated some and made up my own opinion that Meg really doesn't know what she is doing and has limited ability. It would be genius if she was a great drummer who just decided "This is how I'm going to play. I'm gonna back waaay off and sound sloppy", But that's not what she's done. She learned to play a few things and that's good enough for the band. That, by default, means she's not a great drummer. She'd probably be the first one to admit it, and that makes me respect her.

I've said it before. There is a type of crowd out there who will look at a painting of a yellow dot on a red canvas. Someone will come along and say "brilliant!" and pretend to get it. Everyone in the gallery would look confused for a minute and say "Oh yes! I see it now! ~ BRILLIANT!" because they want to look "in the know" and are afraid to look stupid. Then the rest of the world follows them like lemmings over the "brilliant" cliff because that's the hip thing to do and everyone wants to look cool instead of thinking for themselves and saying "It's just a dot!".

That's what the Stripes are to me, but that's just my opinion.

 

[JenniferNorth]

Let it Go, it's not that important.

I totally agree. If you replaced Meg with a technical drummer it would not sound like the White Stripes. It's completely a part of the sound that makes them. To tell the truth, if you replaced Meg, then it would just sound like a bad guitarist with a good drummer and the style would be ruined.

That still doesn't make Meg a good drummer. It makes Jack look good because that's the sound he wants!

Your opinion is no less valid than anyone else, but whenever you offer an opinion you have to be ready to face a counter opinion. That's the way the world works! Not everyone will agree with you and that doesn't mean that person is "closed minded".

To be "open minded" means you give something a chance and then decide wether or not you like it. It doesn't mean that if you don't like it that you are "closed minded". That's a weak argument. If someone doesn't agree with you, you don't have to throw out "closed minded" or "machismo" to strengthen your argument. That's grasping at straws.

I listened to the stripes, liked some of the stuff, hated some and made up my own opinion that Meg really doesn't know what she is doing and has limited ability. It would be genius if she was a great drummer who just decided "This is how I'm going to play. I'm gonna back waaay off and sound sloppy", But that's not what she's done. She learned to play a few things and that's good enough for the band. That, by default, means she's not a great drummer. She'd probably be the first one to admit it, and that makes me respect her.

I've said it before. There is a type of crowd out there who will look at a painting of a yellow dot on a red canvas. Someone will come along and say "brilliant!" and pretend to get it. Everyone in the gallery would look confused for a minute and say "Oh yes! I see it now! ~ BRILLIANT!" because they want to look "in the know" and are afraid to look stupid. Then the rest of the world follows them like lemmings over the "brilliant" cliff because that's the hip thing to do and everyone wants to look cool instead of thinking for themselves and saying "It's just a dot!".

That's what the Stripes are to me, but that's just my opinion.

I think being open minded would imply that the definition of a great musician is slightly more broad than Technique. Everything you said could so easily be turned around.
But... Okay, I'm not going any further with this...you have way too much free time on your hands. To go back re-read everything I have posted and make counter-points. I thought these boards were for the most part fun. So if you get your jollies by tearing down opinions." and I guess "winning" Internet disputes. I'll surrender and let you get to your next opponent...This is pathetic, and I don't want to be pathetic anymore.

Good Day

 

[PhilGood]

I think being open minded would imply that the definition of a great musician is slightly more broad than Technique. Everything you said could so easily be turned around.
But... Okay, I'm not going any further with this...you have way too much free time on your hands. To go back re-read everything I have posted and make counter-points. I thought these boards were for the most part fun. So if you get your jollies by tearing down opinions." and I guess "winning" Internet disputes. I'll surrender and let you get to your next opponent...This is pathetic, and I don't want to be pathetic anymore.

Good Day

It is slightly more than technique. It's ALOT more than technique! If I can see that, so can you.

Pathetic is walking off in a huff as opposed to presenting a clear argument and accepting the other person's opinion. This is a forum for discussion, opinions and debate. I've told you twice now that I respect your opinion and you are welcome to it, but I also have mine.

Instead you choose to throw a tantrum and pout like a child. You could just act like an adult and agree to disagree!

You need thicker skin.

 

[JenniferNorth]

Pathetic is you and I arguing over something as stupid as this? You don't respect my opinion any more than I respect yours. I think that is enough said.

I think the adult thing to do would be to give this topic back to it's original purpose.

 

[RAK]

So here's my question:
Mitch Mitchell or Buddy Miles.

Maybe that's not fair and the question should just be:
JHE or GS&R?

 

[Colour]

I'm no expert about drumming, but I'm surprised that no one mentioned Robert Wyatt of the Soft Machine and Matching Mole fame (not his solo career, though, because he had broken his back by that time and couldn't drum). I've heard many of the drummers listed in this thread, but Robert Wyatt stands out for me.

Part of the problem, I think, is that he broke his back only a few years into his career. Had he not done that, I'm certain that he'd be more recognized.

Well, my opinion anyway.

 

[peopleperson]

Did anyone mention the guy from Venom yet?

Yes, I'm joking.

 

[Tim Brown]

What was the deal with the Beatles using another drummer in the studio? How much of it was not Ringo? Did the studio cat write and play, or just play what Ringo had written?
RF

It was pretty common to use studio musicians back then, particularly for drummers, and especially in England where the Studio scene tended to be a more..."unionized" situation..think about it - Recording Engineers over there used to have to be required to wear a White Lab Coat, because it was considered a science!

That is how Ringo got into the band in the first place - George Martin wanted to use somebody other than Pete Best...simply because he hadn't really heard Pete Best, and had previously worked with Ringo. So when somebody else filled in for Ringo, it probably had nothing to do with his abilities. Who knows, maybe he didn't like going in the studio, or was sick, and they had time booked.




Tim

 

[Tim Brown]

Did anyone mention the guy from Venom yet?

Yes, I'm joking.

Hey Man!

Don't Mess with ABADON!

I'll say this for him - I saw Venom live, and he was a lot better drummer than Peter Criss was. LOL



TIm

 

[Tim Brown]

It is subjective. But, I don't think it's a stupid thread. I like to see and hear musicians that I haven't been exposed to. I wanted to see some different names on the subject. Maybe slightly more unconventional drummers that deserve more respect than they get. (like say...Dan Taylor from the Silver Apples.) What good would it be if all 10 names were the same. Cindy Blackman is a fine drummer...But, I think her overall sound could be easily duplicated by alot of drummers(Not by Meg, of coarse). But, If you Replaced Meg White with a more Technical drummer the White Stripes would sound, well, like the Raconteurs. And, it is Her unique, although sub-standard drumming that is necessary for that sound. The same argument could be made for the Velvet Underground. As I said before this is only an opinion.

So if it is a stupid thread...and, if it is impossible to have a best. Then why is my opinion less valid than yours. Other than the fact that I know so little about percussion.

Wait a minute.... You said it is "...Her unique, although sub-standard drumming that is..."

So if she has Sub-standard (which means below the avarage) then why would she even be mentioned in a BEST DRUMMER list? If you are going to throw up a female drummer, for God Sakes - pick one that can at least play!
Jack White stole his entire schtick from a band called '68 Comeback. Their original drummer, Peggy O'Neill, can play rings around Meg White.


Even though I hate Kid Rock - Stefanie Eulinberg kicks ass as a rock drummer. She has great timing, a good groove, and she hits hard.

 

[Elton Bear]

Uhm... Buddy Rich is the best drummer ever ever ever; without a doubt. But his rock drumming sucks!! I don't know why so many people have him in their lists.

My list would include (off the top of my head, there are hundreds more):
Dave Grohl
Mickey Curry (check out pretty much anything by Bryan Adams to hear his playing)
Rob King (check out www.thinkpol.org if you're thinking "who the fuck is Rob King?")
Vinnie Colaiuta
Brooks Wackerman

After those five it's hard to get another five who are above the hundreds of amazing drummers... I love drummers who know when NOT to show off as well as when to do it.